Smoke in the House!

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AZiggs
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker 90 (I think?)
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Location: Fleetwood, Pa

Post Tue. Feb. 18, 2014 1:29 pm

Carbon12 wrote:Is the flap that opens before or after the fan that blowers the exhaust up the chimney?
The fan is on the stove side of the chimney. So it would be stove-flapper-fan-roof


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titleist1
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Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite
Location: Cecil County, MD

Post Tue. Feb. 18, 2014 1:29 pm

baro maybe?
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Carbon12
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Location: Harrisburg, PA

Post Tue. Feb. 18, 2014 1:34 pm

Metal chimney or masonry chimney?
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Short Bus
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Location: Cantwell Alaska

Post Tue. Feb. 18, 2014 1:37 pm

Draft inducer pushing into a barometric damper? Need Pictures.
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Lightning
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Overmodified/Bored out Clayton 1537
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Awesome Size
Location: Olean, NY

Post Tue. Feb. 18, 2014 1:44 pm

Its been installed for several years it seems. Should have configuration right by now, one would think anyways lol. I'm thinking it needs a thorough cleaning and chimney checked along with inspection of critical components.

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Post Tue. Feb. 18, 2014 3:27 pm

Definitely something wrong with your draft. The combustion blower needs to be on all the time for the coal to burn and to burn efficiently, the damper plate should be 1/4 to 1/2 open. If you are pressurizing your fire box with the blower's plate barely open, the exhaust is not making it into your chimney. Seeing as how there was already a draft inducer installed provides evidence the draft was a problem before you took over the reigns.

Like others have said, manometer, manometer, manometer, coal stoves should not be run without one!!!!!! Having one for spot checks is good, having one permanently installed is best. CO detectors are also important, sounds like you have that covered, and keeping the stove clean is a must. For both safety and longevity of its corrode-able surfaces, which includes but not limited to, well, every dang surface that fly ash touches!!!!!

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Carbon12
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Post Tue. Feb. 18, 2014 3:28 pm

Yup,...one or more things seem to be a mis.
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Rick 386
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Coal Size/Type: Pea in AA 260, Rice in LL Hyfire II
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Location: Royersford, Pa
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Post Tue. Feb. 18, 2014 3:49 pm

AZiggs,

Please fill out the rest of your profile including your general location.
As someone who posts here an awful lot says "Ain't no one gonna come steal ya." But in actuality, there might be someone close to you who could come over and check your set up and explain the operation of the unit to you.

Rick
Master of "Trial and Error."


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warminmn
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Post Tue. Feb. 18, 2014 4:40 pm

Test your Carbon Monoxide detectors to make sure they are working because I would think you would have some leaking. Search online on how to check them as thats easier then me trying to explain and telling you wrong.
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Post Tue. Feb. 18, 2014 4:58 pm

Yup, where are you located? Many of us, myself included, could diagnose the problem better in person, if you're up for that kind of thing. We won't steal ya! :D
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Rick 386
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AA 260 heating both sides of twin farmhouse
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Coal Size/Type: Pea in AA 260, Rice in LL Hyfire II
Other Heating: Gas fired infared at work
Location: Royersford, Pa
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Post Tue. Feb. 18, 2014 6:09 pm

OK fellow concerned coal burners.

Already spoke with him and probably will be talking more tonight when he gets home. He lives near Fleetwood, PA if anyone is near by.

The pipe has not been pulled since he moved in and he thinks he may have put 4 ton through it. So the first order of business will be for him to pull the pipe and check and probably clean a bunch of fly ash out of it. Already mentioned the importance of him getting a manometer so he can monitor the draft.

House is like a 2 story cape so he should be drafting well but we'll get to that after the cleaning.

And he said that even with the shutter on the combustion blower almost fully closed, he was getting moisture on the hopper lid So draft appears to be the issue right now.

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I'm sure he or I will keep you updated.

Rick
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AZiggs
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Post Tue. Feb. 18, 2014 6:11 pm

Thanks Rick :-)

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Post Tue. Feb. 18, 2014 8:32 pm

Rick, you're awesome. Keep us abreast of how he's making out with his stove.

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Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra
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Stove/Furnace Model: 503

Post Tue. Feb. 18, 2014 9:57 pm

That stove seems to really hate you ... should never have smoke coming out ... I think your stove is trying to kill you.

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Hambden Bob
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Other Heating: Pro-Pain Forced Air
Location: Hambden Twp. Geauga County,Ohio

Post Tue. Feb. 18, 2014 9:59 pm

Rick386-Coal Field Agent! Nice Job.....Possibly Another One Saved! Seems like a Warm Spell Is Coming On,Time to get in there after shutting and cooling it down. Get the manual for that unit Online and read it. Get your stove pipe apart,clean it,check for any pin holes from corrosion. Check for flyash in the pipe. I never picked up if you had a masonry chimney or the stainless pipe type. If you can safely get up on the roof without killing yourself,check the whole deal out. These Guys are helping you crack this problem wide open! :up:
Remember,There's No Sight Like Anthracite !......Hambden Bob


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