Why Doesn't My Hitzer 503 Heat My Small House

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Post Wed. Jan. 22, 2014 7:35 pm

Where does a manometer go? What kind of insulation should I use?


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Post Wed. Jan. 22, 2014 7:48 pm

Seems to me that the chimney isn't drafting enough. If it was, by leaving the ash pan door open it seems that in not too long a time period you would be well over-firing and glowing red.
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Post Wed. Jan. 22, 2014 7:51 pm

Emerald7 wrote:Where does a manometer go? What kind of insulation should I use?
Manometer can go between stove exit and before damper area. Plain fiberglass insulation. Could also go on top if you also have a plate to keep it dry.

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Post Wed. Jan. 22, 2014 8:27 pm

Check pix on page 2 Larry
lsayre wrote:Seems to me that the chimney isn't drafting enough. If it was, by leaving the ash pan door open it seems that in not too long a time period you would be well over-firing and glowing red.
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Post Wed. Jan. 22, 2014 8:37 pm

Emerald7,did I miss something or not? do you have a liner from the stove all the way out through the chimney or just a pipe from the stove into or just past the smoke shelf? Keepaeyeonit
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Post Wed. Jan. 22, 2014 8:42 pm

he mentioned somewhere earlier it goes the entire length of the chimney.
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Post Wed. Jan. 22, 2014 8:43 pm

when was the chimney liner cleaned :?: and how long have you been burning with the stove and liner

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Post Wed. Jan. 22, 2014 8:57 pm

If he has a liner the entire length(and its not full of pin holes :?: ) then he should not have a air infiltration problem causing a low draft. Running a insert with a liner is just like a freestanding stove and not like a insert,except its just inserted into the fireplace and not out in the room plus the heat behind the shroud will go up between the liner and clay or brick and that will help keep the liner warm.Keepaeyeonit
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Post Wed. Jan. 22, 2014 9:09 pm

Keepaeyeonit wrote:If he has a liner the entire length(and its not full of pin holes :?: ) then he should not have a air infiltration problem causing a low draft. Running a insert with a liner is just like a freestanding stove and not like a insert,except its just inserted into the fireplace and not out in the room plus the heat behind the shroud will go up between the liner and clay or brick and that will help keep the liner warm.Keepaeyeonit
I was refering to,is the chimney clogged with fly ash :?:

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Post Wed. Jan. 22, 2014 9:21 pm

Dennis, I know what you were saying :) but If he has a liner the entire length, its solid and sealed good to the stove he should not have a air related(air infiltration) low draft problem but a tight house or a short chimney mite be a possibility thats why I'm asking.Keepaeyeonit
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Post Wed. Jan. 22, 2014 9:34 pm

MAYBE--just maybe, he will come back on and give people that have been trying to help an update.
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Post Thu. Jan. 23, 2014 5:37 am

I installed the insert 3 months ago. I have a 6" liner the chimney is 17' and its tile lined chimney. How difficult is it to install a manmeter on an insert? I am burning my last hopper full right now and sunday insulate, try to install meter, and possibly clean the flue. I really believe its a poor draft pull along with lack of insulation.

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Post Thu. Jan. 23, 2014 7:17 am

Emerald7 wrote:Where does a manometer go? What kind of insulation should I use?
I was told that the insulation needed to be the dense, non flammable kind - like the "rock wool" brand. That's what I used in the recent installation of my Mark I. I don't know if a normal fiber glass insulation would create a fire concern due to heat coming from the chimney, particularly with a coal stove, but the increased density of the "rock wool" definitely blocks the air movement better. Take care, Lisa
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Post Fri. Jan. 24, 2014 10:39 pm

We use rigid rockwool insulation to seal the damper area off. You must keep the area around the liner as a dead air space.
Another thing to do- put a piece of 6" gavanized pipe 24" long on the top of your liner........if things improve, you need more height. (remember, this is a temporary trouble shooting procedure)
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Post Sat. Jan. 25, 2014 12:13 am

Is this chimney on a outside wall or inside house?
Being only a 3 mo. old install I'd say liner is messed up real bad.
How was liner fastened onto the stove collar?...might be messed up.

If it was mine, I'd shorten up liner to about 4'-5' and seal around fp damper as others have said.
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