Possible to Un-Crimp Pipe?

User avatar
tcalo
Member
Posts: 1080
Joined: Tue. Dec. 13, 2011 4:57 pm
Baseburners & Antiques: Our Glenwood 109
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anthracite
Location: Long Island, New York

Post Sun. Sep. 22, 2013 10:50 pm

Silly question, is there a way to un-crimp pipe ends? The reason I ask is I just moved my stove and installed a new ceiling support box. I know crimped ends should go away from the stove, unfortunately every support box I've seen has a crimped end on it. I have my stove hooked up with the crimped ends away from the stove. The problem is my stove outlet and support box both have male connectors. I cut the crimped end off a piece of black pipe making a female to female connector. It works, but I was just wondering if it was possible to un-crimp the ceiling support outlet so I could slide the flue pipe inside of it?


User avatar
tsb
Member
Posts: 1812
Joined: Wed. Jul. 30, 2008 8:38 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: Binford 2000
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Pioneer top vent
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Saey Hanover II
Baseburners & Antiques: Grander Golden Oak , Glenwood # 6
Coal Size/Type: All of them
Location: Douglassville, Pa

Post Sun. Sep. 22, 2013 11:12 pm

Find something just smaller than the pipe. Slide the crimped end
over it and pound the crimps out with a hammer. Might take a while,
but the material is there it just has to be flattened out again.

User avatar
tcalo
Member
Posts: 1080
Joined: Tue. Dec. 13, 2011 4:57 pm
Baseburners & Antiques: Our Glenwood 109
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anthracite
Location: Long Island, New York

Post Sun. Sep. 22, 2013 11:50 pm

Good idea, thanks!

CapeCoaler
Member
Posts: 4469
Joined: Sun. Feb. 10, 2008 3:48 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove
Location: Cape Cod, MA

Post Mon. Sep. 23, 2013 12:28 am

Crimp down...
Keeps the water in your pipe...
No drips on the outside...
Just sayin...
And they made it with the crimps down...

User avatar
freetown fred
Member
Posts: 21653
Joined: Thu. Dec. 31, 2009 12:33 pm
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut
Location: Freetown,NY 13803

Post Mon. Sep. 23, 2013 7:42 am

DITTO--that crimp up or down has never been carved in stone coal stove wise---mine is crimp down--always has been, always will be---converted wood burner & it don't make a bit of difference

User avatar
tcalo
Member
Posts: 1080
Joined: Tue. Dec. 13, 2011 4:57 pm
Baseburners & Antiques: Our Glenwood 109
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anthracite
Location: Long Island, New York

Post Mon. Sep. 23, 2013 7:50 am

OK, next question. I have a male connector on my stove, is this common on most stoves? I assume most people encounter my unique situation trying to connect 2 male ends...my stove and support box!

User avatar
whistlenut
Member
Posts: 3548
Joined: Sat. Mar. 17, 2007 6:29 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA130's,260's, AHS130&260's,EFM900,GJ & V-Wert
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Franks,Itasca 415,Jensen, NYer 130,Van Wert
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska, EFM, Keystoker, Yellow Flame
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska, Keystoker-2,Leisure Line
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Alaska, Gibraltar, Keystone,Vc Vigilant 2
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Ford, Jensen, NYer, Van Wert,
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwoods
Coal Size/Type: Barley, Buck, Rice ,Nut, Stove
Other Heating: Oil HWBB
Location: Central NH, Concord area

Post Mon. Sep. 23, 2013 7:55 am

If you stop by a local well stocked stove shop......or hardware store you will find all sorts of adapters that may solve your dilemma. Un-crimping is not a fun project, and if you can solve the issue with a $10.00 adapter, so much for the good................. :idea:

Rigar
Member
Posts: 857
Joined: Tue. Dec. 04, 2012 6:30 am
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A 150
Coal Size/Type: anthracite rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: A 150 warm air furnace
Location: central new york (syracuse area)

Post Mon. Sep. 23, 2013 7:59 am

CapeCoaler wrote:Crimp down...
Keeps the water in your pipe...
No drips on the outside...
Just sayin...
And they made it with the crimps down...
DITTO as well...

male connecter on stove ?...is it manufactured that way or its a fitting you installed ?


CapeCoaler
Member
Posts: 4469
Joined: Sun. Feb. 10, 2008 3:48 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove
Location: Cape Cod, MA

Post Mon. Sep. 23, 2013 8:09 am

A good stove shop will have the pipe you need...
Stove connector...
Pre-made...
Or if you are lucky to have someone that rolls their own... :D
Anything can be made...

User avatar
tcalo
Member
Posts: 1080
Joined: Tue. Dec. 13, 2011 4:57 pm
Baseburners & Antiques: Our Glenwood 109
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anthracite
Location: Long Island, New York

Post Mon. Sep. 23, 2013 8:13 am

Rigar wrote:male connecter on stove ?...is it manufactured that way or its a fitting you installed ?
I have a Coal Chubby Stove, it's made that way. I figured out a fix for my problem, I was just curious if others ran into this. I'd like to hear if other stoves have a male connector on them.

User avatar
tcalo
Member
Posts: 1080
Joined: Tue. Dec. 13, 2011 4:57 pm
Baseburners & Antiques: Our Glenwood 109
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anthracite
Location: Long Island, New York

Post Mon. Sep. 23, 2013 8:30 am

Here is the manual for my stove. On the bottom of page 6 you will see a note about pipe direction.

http://www.chubbystove.com/operation%20manual.pdf

User avatar
coalkirk
Member
Posts: 4716
Joined: Wed. May. 17, 2006 8:12 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1981 EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Jotul 507 on standby
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh anthracite/rice coal
Location: Forest Hill MD

Post Mon. Sep. 23, 2013 8:38 am

tcalo wrote:Here is the manual for my stove. On the bottom of page 6 you will see a note about pipe direction.

http://www.chubbystove.com/operation%20manual.pdf
It's more important that the crimps be down for wood than they be up for coal. In a perfect world it would not matter. But folks burn wood that is not well seasoned and water and creosote drain out and run out of the pipe joints if crimps are placed up. Coal of course doesn't have that problem but the idea was that flue gases would not escape if the crimps were up.

User avatar
coaledsweat
Site Moderator
Posts: 9922
Joined: Fri. Oct. 27, 2006 2:05 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea
Location: Guilford, Connecticut

Post Mon. Sep. 23, 2013 9:38 am

It's probably easier to just unsnap the pipe and trim the crimp off with a pair of shears.

User avatar
Flyer5
Verified Business Rep.
Posts: 10375
Joined: Sun. Oct. 21, 2007 4:23 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pioneer
Location: Montrose PA
Contact:

Post Mon. Sep. 23, 2013 11:18 am

We just switched our stoves or are in the process of switching to female flue outlets. I really never liked the stove pipe over the flue outlet. Back to topic I agree buy an adapter it will save lots of frustration and will look nicer.

User avatar
Rob R.
Site Moderator
Posts: 11522
Joined: Fri. Dec. 28, 2007 4:26 pm
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy
Location: Chazy, NY

Post Mon. Sep. 23, 2013 12:21 pm

freetown fred wrote:DITTO--that crimp up or down has never been carved in stone coal stove wise---mine is crimp down--always has been, always will be---converted wood burner & it don't make a bit of difference
It does when you have a decent puff-back...unless you sealed the seams.


Post Reply

Return to “Coal Bins, Chimneys, CO Detectors & Thermostats”