Co Detector Help

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bksaun
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Post Fri. Nov. 16, 2007 9:44 pm

coalkirk wrote:FYI, the Kidde company makes the Nighthawk. There was a problem with some of them about 2 years ago. They would kill the battery in about 5-6 weeks and then they would chirp, usually about 3:30 in the morning. The digital display would show "Lb" which stood for low battery. I replaced batteries about 3 times and the same thing happened. I called kidde, they asked for the serial numbers of the units (I had 3) and they sent me 3 new units for free.
Thanks coal kirk,

I have one of them that does that exact thing, I will call and have it replaced.

Now that you mention it, it was the First Alert brand that was so bad about false alarms. Not the Kidde!

MY ERROR, Sorry!

BK
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Post Fri. Nov. 16, 2007 10:09 pm

I run the Model Co900 made by American Sensors. Their mode CO920 was Voted #1 in the 2006 Consumer Magazine.

I do like the idea of an display.

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coal berner
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Post Fri. Nov. 16, 2007 10:26 pm

bksaun wrote:
coalkirk wrote:FYI, the Kidde company makes the Nighthawk. There was a problem with some of them about 2 years ago. They would kill the battery in about 5-6 weeks and then they would chirp, usually about 3:30 in the morning. The digital display would show "Lb" which stood for low battery. I replaced batteries about 3 times and the same thing happened. I called kidde, they asked for the serial numbers of the units (I had 3) and they sent me 3 new units for free.
Thanks coal kirk,

I have one of them that does that exact thing, I will call and have it replaced.

Now that you mention it, it was the First Alert brand that was so bad about false alarms. Not the Kidde!

MY ERROR, Sorry!

BK
Hey BK The Two that failed for me two weeks ago was also First Alert The 3 kidde went off
J.C.

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Post Sat. Dec. 01, 2007 11:47 pm

so in essence a nighthawk is the best unit to purchase? I currently have an american sensors CO910 it never seems to detect anything display is always dashes even with fireplace doors open and basement full of smoke.

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Post Mon. Dec. 03, 2007 2:05 pm

I have a digital one 10 feet from all sources of CO - the boiler, backup furnace, and backup water heater. I look at it every time I empty the ash pan, which is once a day. It has a memory also. Anything more than "00" is alarming if you ask me. I have cheaper non digital ones (but brand new) on every floor. Smoke detectors should be in every room. K-Mart sells smoke detectors for $5 each so there is no excuse. I'm not a code Nazi by any means but if something is smoking/burning I want to know about it.
Burning coal is definitely worth the extra work involved.
"Good enough" is not good enough.

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Post Mon. Dec. 03, 2007 2:24 pm

There are some code things that I think are not all that important, but, when it comes to smoke alarms and co detectors, the more the better. Code in my area is finally changing to require co detectors in new homes. Hardwired smokes with battery backup have been required for awhile.
I've got an older home that's exempt from all those codes but I've got electric with battery backup co dectors on each level, including about 6' from my coal boiler. I've got electric with battery backup smoke detectors in each bedroom and in several other rooms on each level. These area all wired together so that if one goes off, they all go off. Overkill? Not if there is a fire.
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Post Mon. Dec. 03, 2007 4:31 pm

The hardwired ones that are all hooked together are the way to go. I went with the easier battery powered units but someday when I remodel I'm going to install a whole house system.
Burning coal is definitely worth the extra work involved.
"Good enough" is not good enough.

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Post Mon. Dec. 03, 2007 4:34 pm

Hello everyone, does any company make a co detector that would alert the neighbors if it were going off? If there were ever a problem when I was at work I would hate to come home to 2 dead dogs. Jim
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Post Mon. Dec. 03, 2007 6:02 pm

cheapheat wrote:Hello everyone, does any company make a co detector that would alert the neighbors if it were going off? If there were ever a problem when I was at work I would hate to come home to 2 dead dogs. Jim
Look for a commercial remote monitoring device. You could get a cheap one to do what you want, a few more bucks and it could call you at the office, cell, neighbors or local Fire Dept.
Nothing is impossible for people who don't have to do it themselves.

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Post Mon. Dec. 03, 2007 7:17 pm

cheapheat wrote:Hello everyone, does any company make a co detector that would alert the neighbors if it were going off? If there were ever a problem when I was at work I would hate to come home to 2 dead dogs. Jim
You can get that feature with a security system.
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