Automatic Ash Removal

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Post by Charlie Z » Thu. Apr. 26, 2007 8:16 am

I'm hoping to get an EFM, AHS or A-A at some point. Not so clear to us newbies is that untended operation is limited not by stoking but by ash removal. I'm wondering if anything can be rigged to remove ash 'semi-automatically.' I haven't seen any ash removal systems.

To design an ash remover, I would think that you would first consider how long you are comfortable letting one of the above boilers go untended.

As one with no stoker experience and not knowing any better, I'd use a week as the emptying interval. As a 55gal drum has about 7 days of coal (~450lbs) and will produce about 90lbs of ash, I'd use that as the design capacity. Figure a galvanized garbage can as a convenient receptacle.

Any ideas; feed augur? Ash hopper on a EFM-type retort in reverse? Step down pit in basement?

 
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Post by Yanche » Thu. Apr. 26, 2007 10:52 am

Well anything that will increase the ash pit storage area will make the unattended burn time greater. The two options are a pit or raise the unit. Neither gets the ash outside. The ash created by my AHS is easily vacuumed. Now I'm not talking about any piss a$$ed dust buster but an industrial vacuum like a Clark or one of the units oil burner service techs use. Sucks up all the unburnt coal and breaks up the little clinker chucks. Now my clinkers are not true clinkers, just slightly fused ash, no glassy lumps. A wood shop sawdust and wood chip ducting system would be great. These have a cyclone separator that drop the debris into a trash can. Locating the cyclone separator outside would be ideal. You would need some kind of intermittent operation timer and a way to keep it from reversing the draft through the coal bed. With a large enough unit you could even vacuum coal.

How about another approach? Make something useful with the ash in your basement. When I was a kid I had my own workshop. An old outbuilding that once was a chicken house. It was built like a brick $hit house. I never could understand why, solid block that was stuccoed. Only recently did I realize it was make with home made solid cinder blocks. Someone long before me or my parents made a lot of solid cinder ash blocks. So ... take the ash your boiler makes every couple of days, mix with portland cement and water in a little electric drum mixer and make blocks. Use them for retaining walls, coal bin walls, etc. Make enough of them and you can build your own Egyptian pyramid!


 
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Post by Charlie Z » Thu. Apr. 26, 2007 1:21 pm

I hadn't thought about a vacuum. How can you make sure you don't suck up a hot coal?

Maybe you build your own ash pan and put small tin ducting to a metal can (like your wood shop dust separator system). Vacuum exhaust could be put to a pit or some inflammable space, just in case. Control it to go off every hour or so.

 
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Post by e.alleg » Thu. Apr. 26, 2007 1:37 pm

"How about another approach? Make something useful with the ash in your basement. When I was a kid I had my own workshop. An old outbuilding that once was a chicken house. It was built like a brick $hit house. I never could understand why, solid block that was stuccoed. Only recently did I realize it was make with home made solid cinder blocks. Someone long before me or my parents made a lot of solid cinder ash blocks. So ... take the ash your boiler makes every couple of days, mix with portland cement and water in a little electric drum mixer and make blocks. Use them for retaining walls, coal bin walls, etc. Make enough of them and you can build your own Egyptian pyramid!"
Thats a great idea, if you could post instructions on how to make them exactly that would be great.

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