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Post by coaledsweat » Sun. Dec. 17, 2017 5:18 pm

If you are going to burn wood, cover the plate's backside with foil or it will accumulate creosote and it will be useless as a baro damper.


 
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Post by freetown fred » Sun. Dec. 17, 2017 5:25 pm

Yes, definitely normal in your type stove.
paulus wrote:
Sun. Dec. 17, 2017 3:45 pm
A nother question,,, sorry for the lot of questions today,,,

When the stove is heating up and dere are flames,,, the flames dissapaers about 20 min.. then only red coal,,is this normal,, because i like the blue flames but they are leaving quickly

 
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Post by Lightning » Sun. Dec. 17, 2017 6:08 pm

paulus wrote:
Sun. Dec. 17, 2017 3:00 pm
Ok thanx,, but all close at that moment , is it not wrong ? because there is no fresh air At that moment
That is normal. Most stoves are not completely air tight, so the fire still gets some air to keep burning. As the fire goes down, the thermostat will open to give it more oxygen. If you need more heat once the fire settles down, turn up the thermostat a little. Give time for the stove to respond to the new setting.
paulus wrote:
Sun. Dec. 17, 2017 3:09 pm
So its, open/close/open/close/open/close automaticly?
Yes, automatically.
paulus wrote:
Sun. Dec. 17, 2017 3:09 pm
And when i tommorrow in the morning the coal are black and i mist going to wake up the coal with poking,,, i dont neet to turn on the thermostat? So i think its open because the ashes block the air from the bottem of the coal,,,
Right. Over night the coal bed will get ashes that block air from coming up thru the coal, the stove will cool down, and the thermostat will open. Leave the thermostat at the same setting after poking, to see what happens. The stove should warm up again and the thermostat will close again.
paulus wrote:
Sun. Dec. 17, 2017 3:42 pm
Ok Fred, i m I mean by blocking, that the light no longer passes through the coal from below because the axles block the air between the coals, tomorrow morning is my stove colder because that,,,,, so the thermostat wil be far open, so i leave it that way and phoke,,, so the flames came again and the stove wil be hotter and the thermostat wil be closer,,,
I gonna try that,,, i will see whats happens,,
Yeah, Yeah! ;)
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When the stove is heating up and dere are flames,,, the flames dissapaers about 20 min.. then only red coal,,is this normal,, because i like the blue flames but they are leaving quickly
It depends on how hot you need to run the stove, sometimes they stay, sometimes they don't. It also depends on the coal itself, like windyhill said. Mine spends most of it's time just red, unless its very cold outside, then short blue fire all the time.

 
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Post by paulus » Mon. Dec. 18, 2017 4:29 am

Thanx everyone for the good information,,
It wil helps me to not affraid of burn coal,, its a litle strange to be away from home and you no that the coal is burning,, you are used to that but I am not yet,, what can happens in the worst case? :annoyed:
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If you are going to burn wood, cover the plate's backside with foil or it will accumulate creosote and it will be useless as a baro damper.
Ok,, so I can use it with burning wood, I do not need to fix /block the valve?
I only put a litle foil on the backside of the valve bit it will be works as a baro damper?

 
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Post by coaledsweat » Mon. Dec. 18, 2017 7:42 am

No, you want it shut off. Either remove and cap it or protect the backside and seal the opening. Coal needs a baro. Wood doesn't, and it will mess up the sensitve balance of the baro.

 
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Post by paulus » Mon. Dec. 18, 2017 11:22 am

coaledsweat wrote:
Mon. Dec. 18, 2017 7:42 am
No, you want it shut off. Either remove and cap it or protect the backside and seal the opening. Coal needs a baro. Wood doesn't, and it will mess up the sensitve balance of the baro.
Ok, clear, thanx

 
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Post by Lightning » Wed. Dec. 20, 2017 5:21 am

Hoe brandt de kolen, mijn vriend?


 
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Post by paulus » Wed. Dec. 20, 2017 6:44 am

:yes: Verry good dutch speaking

Yes it burn good, i dont touch the thermostaat it stays ons 3 its not so cold here ,,,
Thanx Lee

 
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Post by Lightning » Wed. Dec. 20, 2017 7:16 am

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Verry good dutch speaking
Haha, I was testing the Google Translator ;)

 
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Post by paulus » Wed. Dec. 20, 2017 11:07 am

Lightning wrote:
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Haha, I was testing the Google Translator ;)
It works perfect :)

 
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Post by franco b » Wed. Dec. 20, 2017 11:29 am

The blue flames are the initial gasses being burned, hydrogen among others. They disappear when exhausted by burning.

Smaller blue flames later on with an air restricted fire are probably carbon monoxide gas burning.

 
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Post by paulus » Wed. Dec. 20, 2017 4:32 pm

franco b wrote:
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The blue flames are the initial gasses being burned, hydrogen among others. They disappear when exhausted by burning.

Smaller blue flames later on with an air restricted fire are probably carbon monoxide gas burning.
Ok, i think the carbon monoxide gas burning is not good?

 
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Post by freetown fred » Wed. Dec. 20, 2017 4:56 pm

Definitely GOOD P.

 
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Post by franco b » Wed. Dec. 20, 2017 5:21 pm

As Fred said, that CO burning gives complete combustion. It's good.

A lively brisk fire will have just about zero CO.

 
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Post by paulus » Wed. Dec. 20, 2017 5:50 pm

Ok thats just good,,,


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