Wrong Stove

A Coal stoker furnace or stove controls most operations including automatically feeding the coal. They are quite similar to any conventional oil and gas units and easily operated for extended periods of time. They commonly use rice coal but may use larger sizes like buckwheat. They can be used as primary heat, supplementary heat or have a dual set up with your existing oil/gas furnace.
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Post Sat. Aug. 30, 2008 5:50 pm

Just got back to CT from picking up the Pioneer in Scranton, PA 140 miles one way and realized that I got a back vent instead of a top vent why I didn't check is beyond me. I just hope they still have my top vent when I call back on Tues. Morn. :mad:


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Post Sat. Aug. 30, 2008 6:09 pm

oops. The back vent works just as good or better than a top vent, keeps more heat in the stove.... :)
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Post Sat. Aug. 30, 2008 6:15 pm

MY flue opening is about 5.5ft up and I guess I would have to use a couple of elbows, would it work ok that way?

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Post Sat. Aug. 30, 2008 6:23 pm

With a power vent it wouldn't matter but the bottom vent would be more desirable. A bottom vent will hide the stove pipe in most instances and use less coal. Logic would tell me you would get a better draft from a top vent but there is a combustion blower and once the stove gets going the draft should be steady so maybe the bottom vent would work fine.. hmmmm. I'm sure you'll get a few opinions. It would be nice if u could post a pic too.
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Post Sat. Aug. 30, 2008 7:48 pm

Your clearance from combustibles will be farther from the back of the stove with a rear vent. So your stove will stick out into the room farther.
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Post Sat. Aug. 30, 2008 10:43 pm

why I didn't check is beyond me.
It has happened to me, I hate when I do things like that.
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Post Sat. Aug. 30, 2008 11:18 pm

All the accessories he gave me are for a top vent so i'm thinking he must have just grabbed the wrong one and me like a dumb ass didn't think of checking. :oops: I need the top vent, I don't think i'm going to have the room for the back vent. :cry:

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Post Sat. Aug. 30, 2008 11:41 pm

I have a back vent and my friend has a similiar house and sq. footage with a top vent and his usage is much greater than mine and we like the house hot. If u have no choice u have no choice. Just a thought - They sell SS flexible flue pipe. It will allow you to make a much smaller bends than using an elbow. Here is a pic: http://www.fluesystems.com/liners/info/flue_liner.htm If u decide to go this route give Jerry a call at his Leisure Line store - they sell a nice selection of parts for many stove types. I'm sure he has the flue too.
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Post Sat. Aug. 30, 2008 11:47 pm

I think you are in for another road trip! :cry:
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Post Sun. Aug. 31, 2008 12:14 am

yes I think I will be hitting the road again but I think I should rent a truck this time and pick up my 3 tons of coal I think i'll need this winter. $200 a ton in PA is alot better than $295 where I live. and the dealer is going to have to take care of me somehow for my inconvience. anybody know the best place to buy coal around scranton. and thanks guys for all the feed back, I know i'm going to need more help in the near future and I feel confident that this forum will be there for me being a noob to all of this. nobody can understand why I would want to burn coal :shock: you should hear my father inlaw oh my god............. I cant wait to prove him wrong. :lol:

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Post Sun. Aug. 31, 2008 12:35 am

I would ask the dealer to pickup the stove and make the delivery. It doesn't hurt to ask. You're talking another 280 miles and the hassles of carting the stove back to his shop and dealing with the new stove. If he won't budge I'll have my wife call for you. I guarantee that she can get it done. She'll have him babbling and spitting up on himself. Don't tell your father in law that you didn't check the stove. He sounds a lot like my father in law who is a PITA. I'm sure he has a lecture for u on that too.

Are u looking for bagged coal or loose? If u rent a truck for loose it will be a hassle if the truck doesn't have an open bed and lift. You'll be doing a lot of shoveling. Bagged is a different story and doable. I predict that Anthracite will go to 200 a ton next year so buy as much as u can afford. It sure as heck isn't going down. I would also say the average house burns between 3-5 tons so 3 tons may be on the low side for you. Local dealers do run out so don't think you can call him up and he'll shoot over with whatever you want. It's better to have some in reserves especially if we get a really cold winter. These stokers can go through a lot of coal real fast when the temps dip.

Good luck
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Post Sun. Aug. 31, 2008 1:05 am

I'm going to need bagged so I'll and I will probaly get 4 tons. don't get me wrong about my father inlaw he's 80 yrs old and painted my house for me last year he'll do anything for you but try and change his mind forget about it.

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Post Sun. Aug. 31, 2008 7:10 am

If you're getting bagged it isn't much less here than it is elsewhere. The places that do have it sell very little of it and 4 tons would be a big order so if you do intend on bagged make sure to let them know you want 4 ton. If you wanted to pick it up in bulk you can try Hudson which is about 30 minutes from Scranton and 5 minutes off of I-81. It was $130 a ton in the summer but that most likely has gone up or will on Tuesday. Bagged will be roughly double so the savings are minimal if anything after expenses.

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Post Sun. Aug. 31, 2008 8:10 am

Check your PMs :)
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Post Mon. Sep. 08, 2008 11:00 pm

Went back out to Scranton fri. and exchanged the back vent for the top vent. ANC reimbursed me for the gas. and they gave me some accessories, spare ash pan, gloves. So while I was out there I rented a u-haul and picked up 4 tons bagged at Hudson $200 a ton drove back to CT and unloaded 2.5 ton by myself man was I hurting after that finshed at 11pm and I unloaded the rest Sat with my son. I saved about $ 200.


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