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Post by waytomany?s » Sat. Nov. 12, 2022 11:16 am

Is the barometric unable to control the draft?

 
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Post by robj » Sat. Nov. 12, 2022 11:31 pm

To be honest I wasn't really up to speed on how the barometric damper operated. After doing a bit of reading today I think I have a better understanding of it's operation. A friend, [lifelong union a/c-boiler guy] is coming over next week with a manometer to fine tune the damper. In fact, a few of my beer drinking buddies will be here and he's going to give us all a "class"!

P.S. To clarify, not to give us "class", [that ship sailed a long time ago], But to give us "A" class...

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Post by zachary193 » Sat. Nov. 12, 2022 11:52 pm

How far away from the pa line are you ? Depending on the side , Lancaster pa has hard coal and it’s cheaper the farther east you go .

 
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Post by robj » Sun. Nov. 13, 2022 11:57 am

I'm about 1.25 hours south of Lancaster and less than an hour from York. The guy I bought the stove from gave me the name of a place "Bulls Coal" in Maryland Line, [a town] which isn't too far, maybe 45 minutes.

Some Tractor Supplys have Rice Coal for $9 a bag but not all carry it and the closest is right on the Pa line. Near me is "The Mill" in Belair Md, but they are at $12 a bag. As they are close I bought 5 bags from them yesterday just to get started but tomorrow I'm going to check around and drive where-ever for a quantity.

How many bags are on a Pallet?

What's a good price for bags?
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Post by waytomany?s » Sun. Nov. 13, 2022 12:08 pm

50 bags. Normally short ton 2000#. At this point in the game 9.99 is the norm per bag. Anything under is a deal.

 
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Post by k-2 » Sun. Nov. 13, 2022 12:13 pm

robj wrote:
Wed. Nov. 02, 2022 9:06 pm


But also includes what he's calling 1.5-2.5 tons of coal. Hard to tell from the photo.

Does this look like 1.5 tons? [Hard to tell for me]

If it's close, that's $600 give or take right there.

Robj
A ton of coal is roughly 40cu ft so that gives you some idea how to gauge it. Or about 5.5 55 gallon barrels full. Or about 60 5 gallon buckets full. Figure a bin square 6ft 4in by 6ft 4in at 1 ft deep would be 1 ton.

 
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Post by lincolnmania » Sun. Nov. 13, 2022 3:16 pm

Bagged coal is not cheap anywhere.
take a road trip to coal country and get a ton.

 
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Post by robj » Sun. Nov. 13, 2022 4:15 pm

waytomany?s wrote:
Sun. Nov. 13, 2022 12:08 pm
50 bags. Normally short ton 2000#. At this point in the game 9.99 is the norm per bag. Anything under is a deal.
Thanks!
I'll shop around tomorrow.

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Post by Lightning » Sun. Nov. 13, 2022 6:47 pm

robj wrote:
Sat. Nov. 12, 2022 10:34 am
Another question. Do I need a damper in addition to the barometric damper?
Most likely, no..

The barometric damper is to limit draft so that a strong natural drafting chimney doesn't suck heat out of your stove too fast.

 
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Post by oliver power » Sun. Nov. 13, 2022 9:25 pm

One thing to keep in mind; the stainless chimney can start at the ceiling, and doesn't need to go all the way to the ground / footer. That may be a deciding factor. I have never used a power vent, but I don't like that thought.

 
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Post by robj » Mon. Nov. 14, 2022 2:15 pm

I got coal today at "Bulls Supply" in Maryland Line, Md.

A pallet of bags [1 ton] was $460 or $9.20 a bag. Single bags are $9.50, but are going up this week to $9.60.

Loose Rice Coal is $410 a ton or about $50 cheaper.
Right now I don't have a convenient spot to put loose coal but maybe I'll work on that.

Thank to everyone for their help!
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Post by waytomany?s » Mon. Nov. 14, 2022 4:03 pm

robj wrote:
Mon. Nov. 14, 2022 2:15 pm
I got coal today at "Bulls Supply" in Maryland Line, Md.

A pallet of bags [1 ton] was $460 or $9.20 a bag. Single bags are $9.50, but are going up this week to $9.60.

Loose Rice Coal is $410 a ton or about $50 cheaper.
Right now I don't have a convenient spot to put loose coal but maybe I'll work on that.

Thank to everyone for their help!
robj
That's cheaper than here. I'm almost center of NYS. On the edge of Madison and Oneida county.

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