Safety of a Coal Stove with Wood Dust

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Post by ronhampe » Tue. Sep. 18, 2018 5:22 pm

I have a Leisure Line Pioneer rice coal stove with the power venter and coaltrol thermostat

I am converting an existing concrete block garage with a concrete slab floor into a commercial wood shop with two bays. One is 14' x 38' x 12' high with a 12' x 12' insulated door. The rough lumber, planer, jointer and drum sander will be located in this bay. The other will house everything else and is 24' x 38' x 8' high with a 9' x 7' insulated door, new double hung windows (3) and a steel man door. When finished both will have new interior (R19) studded walls with painted OSB or plywood coverings and R38 in the ceiling (same roof line) with dropped ceiling tiles. There is also a wall (R13) that separates the two bays and two additional 9' x 7' doors in the upper bay that will have removable insulated panels covering them. This stove will be located in the upper bay with at least 2 fans mounted in the walls or an air handler mounted in the attic to divert heat to the lower bay as needed.

I used this stove for several years in my basement to heat our 1 & 1/2 story house. With the basement the total area of our home is 3150 sq. ft. and it did an excellent job, but it has not been used for at least 5 years and now needs new glass. I plan to replace the glass with a metal panel (to prevent accidental breakage) and power vent it thru a side wall.

Despite there being dust collection for the large planer, jointer, cnc and table saw, I anticipate a very dusty atmosphere and my insurance agent isn't thrilled with the idea of my using the stove for this application.

Is there any reason that I shouldn't use it?
Is there anything else that I should or could do to make it safer?

Thanks
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Post by coalnewbie » Tue. Sep. 18, 2018 5:46 pm

Your insurance agent is right. I have seem one dust explosion in my life and that was enough.

Is there anything else that I should or could do to make it safer?

No

Hydronics and the boiler far away. Sorry.

 
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Post by Freddy » Wed. Sep. 19, 2018 8:50 am

Interesting. Because of this post I did a bit of research. It seems the dust in the air made by the tool while working isn't the big risk..... dust on counters, inside square collections ducting and on floors is. Something will occur that fluffs this dust into the air and a spark in a switch or even a hot light bulb can spark it off. BOOM! They say housekeeping is the best way to stay safe. If you can use your finger to write your name in the dust on a counter....it's too much dust!

So.... I agree.... hydronic heat from an outside source would be the safest.


 
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Post by coalnewbie » Wed. Sep. 19, 2018 9:27 am

So, run your house with your stove and in the work shop a small electric heat pump. Much cheaper .... details PM Rob R. our resident expert on the topic.

 
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Post by Rob R. » Sun. Sep. 23, 2018 9:45 am

coalnewbie wrote:
Wed. Sep. 19, 2018 9:27 am
So, run your house with your stove and in the work shop a small electric heat pump. Much cheaper .... details PM Rob R. our resident expert on the topic.
A dusty environment would be a challenge for a heat pump. The filters are quite fine, and would quickly become plugged with dust.

Does the LL Pioneer have provisions for outside air?

 
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Post by gambler » Sun. Oct. 14, 2018 9:32 am

Rob R. wrote:
Sun. Sep. 23, 2018 9:45 am
A dusty environment would be a challenge for a heat pump. The filters are quite fine, and would quickly become plugged with dust.

Does the LL Pioneer have provisions for outside air?
I have outside combustion air hooked to my LL Pioneer. Have had it that way for years.


 
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Post by Rob R. » Sun. Oct. 14, 2018 9:38 am

gambler wrote:
Sun. Oct. 14, 2018 9:32 am
I have outside combustion air hooked to my LL Pioneer. Have had it that way for years.
Rick, thanks for sharing. Any chance you can post a picture of the air hookup?

 
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Post by gambler » Mon. Oct. 15, 2018 7:09 pm

Rob R. wrote:
Sun. Oct. 14, 2018 9:38 am
Rick, thanks for sharing. Any chance you can post a picture of the air hookup?
I will try to get some pics up.
I took a 3" start collar with crimp and siliconed it to my B30 combustion fan.
Then I ran a 3" dryer vent out through the wall and connected the vent and start collar with 3"
aluminum flex duct.

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