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Post by oliver power » Sun. Mar. 04, 2018 9:00 am

I did not want to steal the post below, so started a new one.

I've considered piping directly into the hopper like "Exmanjeff" (New Member) has described. Simple enough to do....... Like all projects, I like to think things through. Below are exmanjeff's words I took from one of his replies. Maybe he will read this, and send some pictures, comments, things he'd do different, etc..

I feed mine from outside with a 2 inch pvc pipe and small box hopper mounted on back of house with stove near backside basement wall , so no coal gets carried into house , all coal goes thru the pvc pipe , that is the best part of my whole system , I would strongly consider this if it you can .


 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Thu. Mar. 08, 2018 9:05 am

Think how the Hitzer hopper works...
Remote hopper outside the house...
45* or more down angle on the pipe to your inside hopper...
I would put a slicing gate to shut the flow off for service...
Assuming this is for rice coal.
If you slope the outside hopper box corners...
most will feed into the pipe...
Must be kept dry outside or rice will freeze solid...

 
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Post by oliver power » Thu. Mar. 08, 2018 11:04 pm

CapeCoaler wrote:
Thu. Mar. 08, 2018 9:05 am
Think how the Hitzer hopper works...
Remote hopper outside the house...
45* or more down angle on the pipe to your inside hopper...
I would put a slicing gate to shut the flow off for service...
Assuming this is for rice coal.
If you slope the outside hopper box corners...
most will feed into the pipe...
Must be kept dry outside or rice will freeze solid...
Gee Cape Coaler, I was beginning to think this post died. Exmanjeff simply vanished. Thought maybe we could toss some ideas back, and fourth. I've often thought of doing something like this. I've had my feet go out from under me a few times while carrying 5 gallon pails of coal down slippery steps. Have been lucky to have not gotten hurt. It'd be much safer, and easier to simply fill an outside hopper. Nothing fancy. And about the size of 1-1/2 five gallon pails.

One other thought came to mind. The pipe comes up from the basement, to the outside. It sticks up through the reservoir about 1-1/2 inches, giving a stand pipe in the reservoir. This would (For the most part) eliminate fines going down the pipe, and into the hopper.

 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Fri. Mar. 09, 2018 9:26 am

Use a mesh for the bottom of the outside hopper, the fines can fall thru to the ground.

 
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Post by oliver power » Fri. Mar. 09, 2018 8:16 pm

windyhill4.2 wrote:
Fri. Mar. 09, 2018 9:26 am
Use a mesh for the bottom of the outside hopper, the fines can fall thru to the ground.
Yes, another good idea. Would never have to clean fines. I assume KEYSTOKER has big flat bottomed hoppers for fines to settle, rather than go through the stoker. So, an outside reservoir with flat mesh bottom would allow fines to sift through.

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Fri. Mar. 09, 2018 8:32 pm

Why not a bit bigger?...
You could in effect increase the size of your stoker hopper...
The feed pipe will stop flowing once the stoker hopper level reaches the inside pipe bottom...
A screen in the bottom will just silt up...
better to put the screen on top off to the side...
Fines never get into the system...
Coal larger than the screen slides into the hopper system...
Bigger capacity lets you feed the hopper system less often...
Hopefully when the weather is nicer...

 
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Post by oliver power » Fri. Mar. 09, 2018 10:46 pm

CapeCoaler wrote:
Fri. Mar. 09, 2018 8:32 pm
Why not a bit bigger?...
You could in effect increase the size of your stoker hopper...
The feed pipe will stop flowing once the stoker hopper level reaches the inside pipe bottom...
A screen in the bottom will just silt up...
better to put the screen on top off to the side...
Fines never get into the system...
Coal larger than the screen slides into the hopper system...
Bigger capacity lets you feed the hopper system less often...
Hopefully when the weather is nicer...
Exactly what I had in mind with flow from pipe stopping once hopper reached pipe. At the same time, dust would not be floating all over the place, as coal would be gently flowing from pipe.

At the top of the pipe (outside) I would fabricate a reservoir that would hold at least a 5 gallon pail of coal. The reservoir would have an aluminum bottom, with small stand pipe. Holes drilled in the bottom to let fines out, yet small enough to not let coal go though. As long as I kept coal in the exterior reservoir, the inside hopper would stay full.

This would be much easier, and safer for me. I'd fill a 5 gallon pail from the gravity wagon (Fast & Easy). Walk over , and dump it in the exterior hopper. Close cover...... Done! It would be a simple set-up.

Keep the ideas coming . We are getting some where.


 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Sat. Mar. 10, 2018 6:38 am

Move gravity wagon to pvc chute and eliminate the pails.

 
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Post by titleist1 » Sat. Mar. 10, 2018 8:56 am

hotblast1357 wrote:
Sat. Mar. 10, 2018 6:38 am
Move gravity wagon to pvc chute and eliminate the pails.
That's kind of what i was wondering....why have a smallish reservoir on the outside that needs to be filled so frequently? You can not only eliminate carrying it in the house, but minimize the coal handling to maybe 1/month filling that bin. If the gravity wagon can't work, can you build / buy a cone shaped bin for that space that holds a lot more (maybe a ton) and can be filled easily? If it is a "looks" thing you want to avoid, maybe it can be moved in the off season and the pipe capped?

 
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Post by Den034071 » Sat. Mar. 10, 2018 10:48 am

Gents check the old post on exterior filling of hopper from outside bin .See Jim From Macungie.Its on forum .I saw his bin holds 4 or 5 ton .Power to auger an slide gate .No dust no dirt .He has a large Harmon rice burner .You will find Proper Degree Angle to slide rice coal . jack

 
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Post by oliver power » Sat. Mar. 10, 2018 9:18 pm

hotblast1357 wrote:
Sat. Mar. 10, 2018 6:38 am
Move gravity wagon to pvc chute and eliminate the pails.
Ahhhh; I wondered when someone would come up with that idea :lol: . Good idea except; I already have a whole house generator, condensing unit, and landscaping right where the hopper would need to go. Even thought of a small out building built around the hopper.

Problem is; I like the clean look around the house. I hate the look of sheds / outbuildings up close to house. It starts to look like a junk yard. Not really to keen on the gravity wagon but, it's kind of behind the house. Sort of out of site, and definitely temporary / portable. Otherwise, Great Idea. A small hopper would be simple, cheap, and not stand out.

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Sat. Mar. 10, 2018 10:29 pm

A 44 gallon brute trash can, plastic no rust, paint-able and nice lid...
Can hold 400 lbs+/-...
Other sizes available...
20 gallon might be the right balance between fill cycles and 'looks'...

 
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Post by oliver power » Sun. Mar. 11, 2018 3:47 am

CapeCoaler wrote:
Sat. Mar. 10, 2018 10:29 pm
A 44 gallon brute trash can, plastic no rust, paint-able and nice lid...
Can hold 400 lbs+/-...
Other sizes available...
20 gallon might be the right balance between fill cycles and 'looks'...
Yes, something that doesn't look out of place.... Rain barrel, dog house, window well, etc.. :)

 
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Post by oliver power » Sun. Mar. 11, 2018 3:48 am

CapeCoaler wrote:
Sat. Mar. 10, 2018 10:29 pm
A 44 gallon brute trash can, plastic no rust, paint-able and nice lid...
Can hold 400 lbs+/-...
Other sizes available...
20 gallon might be the right balance between fill cycles and 'looks'...
Yes, something that doesn't look out of place.... Rain barrel, dog house, window well, etc... I'm liking it... :)

 
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Post by xmanjeff » Tue. Mar. 13, 2018 4:32 pm

ive been wanting to get picks up but have been awfully busy and out of town a good bit , but the main concern I had was making sure that in no way water could get in , I originally had the same ideas as mentioned above , but settled on a wood box I fabricated up , I would have liked to go larger but to go larger in diameter that meant that the pipe coming out of wall had to come out further on a 45, that would make the outside hopper higher , then the top is too high for easy access
, I will try and get some picks up before end of week , I have them on my phone , the hard part is getting them on here,
I had read also in a number of posts in the past that you need at least 4 inch pipe or the coal will bridge up , as far as I'm concerned that is pure bs , my coal just shuffles down thru the pipe now and again as the stove feeds , with no bridging of any kind


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