Pioneer Combustion Blower

A Coal stoker furnace or stove controls most operations including automatically feeding the coal. They are quite similar to any conventional oil and gas units and easily operated for extended periods of time. They commonly use rice coal but may use larger sizes like buckwheat. They can be used as primary heat, supplementary heat or have a dual set up with your existing oil/gas furnace.
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farok
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pioneer top vent
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Post Mon. Nov. 07, 2016 9:07 am

When I took the combustion fan off to oil it before firing up my stove this year, the fan didn't want to spin when I tested it. A little encouragement and it took off, but it feels as if the bearing may be starting to go, so I'll be getting a replacement ready just in case. I understand it's a Fasco B30 blower fan, but I also see a Dayton 1TDN5 that should fit just the same. The Fasco has a sleeve bearing and the Dayton has ball bearings. Is one quieter than the other? The stove sits in my living room so a quieter fan would be nice. Any other reason to pick one over the other? Thanks! -Chris

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Post Mon. Nov. 07, 2016 11:16 am

farok wrote:When I took the combustion fan off to oil it before firing up my stove this year, the fan didn't want to spin when I tested it. A little encouragement and it took off, but it feels as if the bearing may be starting to go, so I'll be getting a replacement ready just in case. I understand it's a Fasco B30 blower fan, but I also see a Dayton 1TDN5 that should fit just the same. The Fasco has a sleeve bearing and the Dayton has ball bearings. Is one quieter than the other? The stove sits in my living room so a quieter fan would be nice. Any other reason to pick one over the other? Thanks! -Chris
Get the Dayton, you'll be glad you did. 8-)

Ball Bearings and PSC motor is a slam dunk.

Very quiet, half the wattage, half the heat...runs way cooler, smoother and longer than junkie cheap ash OEM shaded pole motors w/ bushings.

Features
PSC motor

Baked enamel Gray finish

Heavy gauge steel housing

All position Mounting

Maximum Ambient Temperature
104°F

Suitable for 50Hz operation
Additional Benefits

Permanently Lubricated Ball-Bearings

Auto-Thermal Protection
SLOW AND STEADY WINS THE RACE

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farok
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pioneer top vent
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Yukon/Eagle
Location: Milford, NJ

Post Mon. Nov. 07, 2016 8:42 pm

Thanks for the quick reply!


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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Invader 2
Baseburners & Antiques: Wings Best, Glenwood #8(x2) Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice,
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22
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Post Mon. Nov. 07, 2016 9:15 pm

Shaded pole motors do have a finite life but before you dump it try lubricating it with

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0016GRXN4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

See the LL videos on U tube and my post on Pocono power vent. Mine was slow three years ago and now I lubricate it religiously and she is still going. Of course, the Dayton motor is better but money is money. Lubricate the distribution motor as well. Blaster makes an equivalent so you may have a can around.
Posted by an unreasonable adult.

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Post Tue. Nov. 08, 2016 5:58 am

I had oiled it and it is a little better, but I still had to coax it to run at speed. I'll save the motor as an emergency swap, but I think best to replace it. Thanks for the suggestion on oil/grease for the future! -Chris

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Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
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Post Wed. Nov. 09, 2016 1:56 pm

The steel shaft can rust when sitting over the summer. Best to oil all motors in the spring as well. Do not use the PSC dayton for the convection fan. They do not play well with the speed control.
http://www.leisurelinestove.com


You know when people say it was "better back in my day"?

They were right.


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Post Sun. Nov. 13, 2016 7:33 pm

Thanks all!

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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Leisure Line
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pioneer LE Back Vent
Location: Douglassville,Pa
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Post Fri. Dec. 09, 2016 6:52 pm

what is the life's span of the motors I have mine for 4 years now, I to was wondering about the replacement motors.

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Post Thu. Dec. 15, 2016 12:55 pm

Darren L wrote:what is the life's span of the motors I have mine for 4 years now, I to was wondering about the replacement motors.
Depends on many environmental conditions mostly.
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You know when people say it was "better back in my day"?

They were right.

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