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A Coal stoker furnace or stove controls most operations including automatically feeding the coal. They are quite similar to any conventional oil and gas units and easily operated for extended periods of time. They commonly use rice coal but may use larger sizes like buckwheat. They can be used as primary heat, supplementary heat or have a dual set up with your existing oil/gas furnace.
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Post Sun. Apr. 20, 2008 2:01 pm

Well I finally found a boiler.

Used EFM 520

Now to rebuild my chimney and get it plumbed in and running.

That should be done by December.
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Post Sun. Apr. 20, 2008 2:04 pm

Unloading the actual boiler is becoming a challenge. I have a boom on the 3 point hitch of my tractor and it will lift it. But I have to choke up the chain so much I can't lower the boiler to the ground. Rigging up some planks and my trailer ramps to slide it off the truck. I have to have someone come help me and I'm stuck here by myself.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
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Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined
Location: Orrington, Maine

Post Sun. Apr. 20, 2008 2:07 pm

Congrats on finding a boiler!

Can you lower it some? If you can get it within 6 or 12 inches of the ground..... go buy some blocks of ice. Set the boiler on the ice. Come back the next day & it'll be where you want it.

Or, lower it as much as you can... then maybe drive the front wheels of the tractor up some ramps?
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Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite
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Post Sun. Apr. 20, 2008 3:02 pm

Freddy wrote: Can you lower it some? If you can get it within 6 or 12 inches of the ground..... go buy some blocks of ice. Set the boiler on the ice. Come back the next day & it'll be where you want it.

Or, lower it as much as you can... then maybe drive the front wheels of the tractor up some ramps?
:lol: I'll have to remeber that ice idea, that's one of those things you may only ever use once in your life but you'll look like genius for thinking of it.

Other that what was suggested how about jacking the front of the tractor up? Let some air out the back tires?

The air idea actually came from a story from my uncle told me, he had to make a delivery where he drove the truck into a garage. It fit on the way in but once the load is off it gains a few inches and he forgot about it. Had to let the air out the tires to get it out.
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Post Sun. Apr. 20, 2008 4:56 pm

Lift it off with the 3-pt lift, set it on several concrete blocks, or a stack of wood, or planks over stacked firewood,, anything high enough off the ground to give you slack in the chain,, then reattach with as much chain as you can,, and set on the ground, or repeat the operatiion...

I usually have a stack of concrete blocks around,, just make a 2-high or 3-high stack, with a plank across them..

WHATEVER you do,, DON't put yourself in a postiion for the boiler to tip off the stack and fall on YOU!! Especially if you are alone!! Put your cell phone in your pocket !!

I remember a friend looking at a setup I was about to set in motion.. He said,, just a minute,, let me dial 91... and keep my finger over the number 1.. 'cause that contraption looks like we're gonna need help !! I laughed and rebuilt the setup.. and 911 wasn't needed..

Safety first !!

Congrats on the purchase... that should do just fine for your needs..

Greg L
Burning Pea/Buckwheat through an antique stoker [semi retired SSboiler],
Running an Axeman-Anderson 260M boiler burning Pea, About 150-250#per day
Farming, Fixing, Fabricating and Flying: 'spare time' what's that?

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Post Sun. Apr. 20, 2008 5:04 pm

I've never seen the exchanger tubes in the pictures that stoker man posted.

so here are a couple.

BTW: It slid off just fine. Nice and easy. Tuesday I have to put it in the basement. Thats going to be fun.
Then I have to figure out how to get the engine hoist in the basement to put it together.

Fun Fun.
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Post Sun. Apr. 20, 2008 5:06 pm

LsFarm wrote:Lift it off with the 3-pt lift, set it on several concrete blocks, or a stack of wood, or planks over stacked firewood,, anything high enough off the ground to give you slack in the chain,, then reattach with as much chain as you can,, and set on the ground, or repeat the operatiion...

I usually have a stack of concrete blocks around,, just make a 2-high or 3-high stack, with a plank across them..

WHATEVER you do,, DON't put yourself in a postiion for the boiler to tip off the stack and fall on YOU!! Especially if you are alone!! Put your cell phone in your pocket !!

I remember a friend looking at a setup I was about to set in motion.. He said,, just a minute,, let me dial 91... and keep my finger over the number 1.. 'cause that contraption looks like we're gonna need help !! I laughed and rebuilt the setup.. and 911 wasn't needed..

Safety first !!

Congrats on the purchase... that should do just fine for your needs..

Greg L
It slid right off the ramps I had set up. Nice and Easy!!
Of course I cut the long plank you see in the picture so it fit.

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Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert
Location: Stillwater, New Jersey

Post Sun. Apr. 20, 2008 6:06 pm

Nice find! Oh and what kind of tractor?
Heating a circa 1832 farmhouse with a Harman Magnafire Mark I & a 1959 EFM 350 (heating DHW).
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Post Sun. Apr. 20, 2008 7:03 pm

Mine looks different inside, the heat exchanger is totally different. Yours must be a newer model, mine has baffles that hang in the firebox and behind them is rows of water tubes.
Burning coal is definitely worth the extra work involved.
"Good enough" is not good enough.

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Post Sun. Apr. 20, 2008 7:24 pm

I have a baffle to hang at the back of the firebox also.

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Post Sun. Apr. 20, 2008 9:24 pm

You'll love it! Have fun getting it in the basement, It's a job that you'll probably remember forever. hehe it's all part of the fun.
Burning coal is definitely worth the extra work involved.
"Good enough" is not good enough.

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Post Sun. Apr. 20, 2008 9:39 pm

The good thing is once it's in it's in. You'll probably never have to replace that boiler.

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Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Chestnut
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Post Sun. Apr. 20, 2008 9:46 pm

That boiler is at least 30 years old. The never boilers are not made that way. We have one in the shop on its side and I'll take a picture of it on Tuesday.
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Post Sun. Apr. 20, 2008 10:40 pm

The newer ones are made more like this:
E.F.M. Stoker 018.jpg
I think this design with water-filled ribs would be much easier to clean.

Greg L
Burning Pea/Buckwheat through an antique stoker [semi retired SSboiler],
Running an Axeman-Anderson 260M boiler burning Pea, About 150-250#per day
Farming, Fixing, Fabricating and Flying: 'spare time' what's that?

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Post Sun. Apr. 20, 2008 11:05 pm

LsFarm wrote:The newer ones are made more like this:
E.F.M. Stoker 018.jpg
I think this design with water-filled ribs would be much easier to clean.

Greg L
Thats a water tube boiler

The one above looks like a fire tube boiler

After living with both as a kid - boiler tender - make that the one that got the crappy jobs ..... I would scrap the water tube boiler rather than live with it.

But then my opinions have met with flame in the past and most likely will again.
When you turn your boiler on -Does it return the favor?
I have finally lost my mind. Don't bother to return it. It wasn't working properly anyway!


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