This Franklin 1979 Stove UL Listed?

Teri · Post by **Teri** » Thu. Nov. 12, 2015 4:43 am

Hi all, I bought an older home, purchased a wood burning stove today that has FRANKLIN 1979 stamped into the iron on the front. Im told by my brother that my home insurance may drop me if its not UL listed. Im very saddened because my daughter went to EXTREMES making sure I was safe. She built a hearth on concrete, then on cinder block and backed the walls with fireproof plastic, then concrete board, THEN brick. Knowing the home is ready off we go to buy a wood burning stove. To do all of that and find the stove we bought may not be UL listed has me nervous.
We go look at this stove, fall in love and cut a check. I took a few pics of it before We left . We pick it up this Saturday morning. Now my brother just shared with me "you better make sure it's UL listed. I've been on the web all day. I've read through forums. I think I read yes it's listed but then I find where maybe no. Can you please help me? Here are the few pics I took. I wish I had taken more or knew to look for a UL stamp before today

My questions are this
1. Is this UL listed?
2. If not, is there anything about this stove that's wonderful that I can tell my insurance company?
3. Is there a manufacturer installation guide as well that you know of?

THANK YOU so much

Post by **ONEDOLLAR** » Thu. Nov. 12, 2015 5:03 am

You might want also want to try HEARTH.com as it is primary a wood burners forum. Good luck.

stovehospital · Post by **stovehospital** » Thu. Nov. 12, 2015 7:06 am

Quite often you will be asked for an installation guide. You do not really need one and you also do not need the UL listing. The code books BOCA and ASME , both list installation instructions for non-UL listed stoves. I and to work my way up the food chain in RI to get to the top guy who found the NON-UL installation information.
I have found that many installers and code guys just go with the obvious and don't investigate their own codes. Insurance companies ate the same way. They assume that any non-UL stove is bad. I asked my company to leave and I would get another company. That ended the problem in short order.

freetown fred · Post by **freetown fred** » Thu. Nov. 12, 2015 8:58 am

clean the poor old girl up, something handle ends on front doors--new reducer on back--if it looks good & is 16-18 inches from walls you're good--16-18" in front on hearth--pix of install area-

Teri · Post by **Teri** » Thu. Nov. 12, 2015 11:19 am

Thank you so much
It certainly does not go unappreciated

warminmn · Post by **warminmn** » Thu. Nov. 12, 2015 11:47 am

Its a Frontier stove, not Franklin. Anyway, I did a search and found this, which may help. https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1310&dat=1 ... 4131&hl=en

That ICBO it mentions in the ad would be about the same, I would think. If you don't point it out to your insurance company it may not matter. If it does, switch insurance companies if thats possible. I'm sure the insurance companies have a right not to cover it, but you have the right not to buy from them too.

Teri · Post by **Teri** » Fri. Nov. 13, 2015 2:17 pm

My goodness!!!! Thank you
my gosh how kind
Thank you!!!!!!

warminmn · Post by **warminmn** » Fri. Nov. 13, 2015 3:19 pm

Your welcome! Please let us know how it works out with your codes/insurance company as we get those types of questions a couple times a year.

michaelanthony · Post by **michaelanthony** » Fri. Nov. 13, 2015 3:41 pm

As we wish you the best with your install, we also extend an invitation to heating with coal. As you have found out this place is full of good people with great information. The majority of us started with wood.

Teri · Post by **Teri** » Fri. Nov. 13, 2015 4:45 pm

I do not know anything about heating with Coal.
I assume its cleaner? Safer due to no or little creosote?
? Is there a way to convert this frontier stove for Coal?
Can you send me any information? Perhaps coal is what I do next spring
If I could read perhaps I set this hearth and chimney pole thing up keeping coal in mind
I just know nothing

SWPaDon · Post by **SWPaDon** » Fri. Nov. 13, 2015 7:10 pm

Welcome to the forum Teri.

Your search for information on burning coal can start here: Introduction to Coal Burning

Then read this thread: Basics of a Hand Fired Coal Stove

Post by **franco b** » Fri. Nov. 13, 2015 10:18 pm

Converting your stove to coal is probably impractical.

At this point try to set it up to make cleaning the chimney as easy as you can. With an old style stove and restricting the air to get long burn times creosote can can build up quickly. Running a brush up or down the chimney once a month is a good safety measure.

warminmn · Post by **warminmn** » Sat. Nov. 14, 2015 9:53 am

It looks similar to a lot of the old Fisher brand wood stoves and would operate/burn about the same. It claimed over 90,000 BTU, so it should heat a large area but will take a lot of wood to do it.

One advantage of these older wood stoves is your wood can be a little green or a little wet and still burn. Disadvantage being it will take more wood than new stoves. I still use an older style stove myself but mine is modified to burn wood or coal. I don't think you can burn coal in yours either. Enjoy.

This Franklin 1979 Stove UL Listed?

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