Harman DVC-500 or LL Power Vent

A Coal stoker furnace or stove controls most operations including automatically feeding the coal. They are quite similar to any conventional oil and gas units and easily operated for extended periods of time. They commonly use rice coal but may use larger sizes like buckwheat. They can be used as primary heat, supplementary heat or have a dual set up with your existing oil/gas furnace.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Invader 2
Baseburners & Antiques: Wings Best, Glenwood #8(x2) Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice,
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22
Location: Chester, NY

Post Tue. May. 20, 2014 1:07 pm

Oh Dave, stop griping, I'll clean the damned Lear Jet for you and be done with it....... hahahahahahahahaha, I slay myself.
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Post Tue. May. 20, 2014 1:07 pm

Flyer5 wrote:P.S. I would still rather you buy the Leisure Line. :D
I am really torn I like the look of the DVC over LL but I personally like the PV over the DV concept. I feel forced into the DVC do to price

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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Invader 2
Baseburners & Antiques: Wings Best, Glenwood #8(x2) Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice,
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22
Location: Chester, NY

Post Tue. May. 20, 2014 1:09 pm

Hey, every man has a budget limit I understand. LOL.
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Post Tue. May. 20, 2014 4:10 pm

What CN said. I was just joking with you. I do this because I enjoy seeing people save money and not burn foreign oil. No hard feelings whatever you buy and I understand your view for the PV DV issue.
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You know when people say it was "better back in my day"?

They were right.

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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 HighBoy
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: DVC-500 x 2
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Rice
Location: Warrenton, NC

Post Tue. May. 20, 2014 4:44 pm

KC2LLW wrote:I belive my rep said $120 for the termination vent.
$349.00 for 8-inch Wall Termination (1-10-08313).
$135.00 for 45 degree angle (1-10-08310), if you mount it in a corner of a room.
Plus another couple hundred for the outside Candycane.

Its still worth it.
We got 2 DVC's in the house and we will be keeping them for some time to come.

Yep, they need maintenance like any stove does.
Mine never died in the middle of a heating season, though.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Invader 2
Baseburners & Antiques: Wings Best, Glenwood #8(x2) Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice,
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22
Location: Chester, NY

Post Tue. May. 20, 2014 4:52 pm

It was a terrible winter in Warrenten, NC. There were rumors of a snowflake in the state and the children were evacuated to a fallout shelter. Poking a little fun here? Perhaps, but my son moved from NYS to Hickory, NC and was laughing at them daily. The point is NC winters are a different breed and having two stoves is smart even for them. I am sorry but I do not have confidence in DVC reliability and don't tell me I don't know how to operate the stove. Could be a function of dirty power blowing the main circuit board, fragile thermocouples, my stupidity who knows. I would dump mine in a second but it's utility where it is is perfect and I already bought the damned thing.
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Post Tue. May. 20, 2014 6:05 pm

009to090 wrote:
KC2LLW wrote:I belive my rep said $120 for the termination vent.
$349.00 for 8-inch Wall Termination (1-10-08313).
$135.00 for 45 degree angle (1-10-08310), if you mount it in a corner of a room.
Plus another couple hundred for the outside Candycane.

Its still worth it.
We got 2 DVC's in the house and we will be keeping them for some time to come.

Yep, they need maintenance like any stove does.
Mine never died in the middle of a heating season, though.
That brings it to $2700 still cheap

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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Invader 2
Baseburners & Antiques: Wings Best, Glenwood #8(x2) Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice,
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22
Location: Chester, NY

Post Tue. May. 20, 2014 6:08 pm

For a DVC yes. You need to ask different questions.
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Post Tue. May. 20, 2014 6:33 pm

coalnewbie wrote:It was a terrible winter in Warrenten, NC. There were rumors of a snowflake in the state and the children were evacuated to a fallout shelter. Poking a little fun here? Perhaps, but my son moved from NYS to Hickory, NC and was laughing at them daily. The point is NC winters are a different breed and having two stoves is smart even for them. I am sorry but I do not have confidence in DVC reliability and don't tell me I don't know how to operate the stove. Could be a function of dirty power blowing the main circuit board, fragile thermocouples, my stupidity who knows. I would dump mine in a second but it's utility where it is is perfect and I already bought the damned thing.
This is what scares me I hear a lot of negative feedback on the DVC I love the look and it's nice and heavy twice the weight as the LL but I like the PV better I think it would be less noisy too I am confused :cry:

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Post Tue. May. 20, 2014 9:27 pm

KC2LLW wrote:
coalnewbie wrote:It was a terrible winter in Warrenten, NC. There were rumors of a snowflake in the state and the children were evacuated to a fallout shelter. Poking a little fun here? Perhaps, but my son moved from NYS to Hickory, NC and was laughing at them daily. The point is NC winters are a different breed and having two stoves is smart even for them. I am sorry but I do not have confidence in DVC reliability and don't tell me I don't know how to operate the stove. Could be a function of dirty power blowing the main circuit board, fragile thermocouples, my stupidity who knows. I would dump mine in a second but it's utility where it is is perfect and I already bought the damned thing.
This is what scares me I hear a lot of negative feedback on the DVC I love the look and it's nice and heavy twice the weight as the LL but I like the PV better I think it would be less noisy too I am confused :cry:
The only other consideration is the DVC is only 75,000 BTUs . Will that be enough? If it is then you have your answer. But if you are concerned about noise I would stay away from the DV and the PV altogether. I am just saying that because this is the second time you raised concern over noise. Olympia chimney does Class A pipe powder coated in colors now so it could probably match your siding. A chimney makes no sound.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Dvc-500
Coal Size/Type: rice
Other Heating: wayne oil furnance
Stove/Furnace Make: harman
Stove/Furnace Model: dvc-500
Location: Newfounland,Pa

Post Wed. May. 21, 2014 9:22 am

|I own dvc runs well but parts are expensive and the dvc are no longer made. I would go with the LL.

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Post Wed. May. 21, 2014 12:15 pm

th77 wrote:|I own dvc runs well but parts are expensive and the dvc are no longer made. I would go with the LL.
I am now condsidering a Keystoker , Alaska, and LL, along with the DVC. I figure a have 3 months to figure out what is the best stoker for me.

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Post Thu. May. 22, 2014 6:08 am

After watching the LL stove manual video last night. I am leaning more towards a LL stoker. I was very impressed with the stove and power vent setup. I also like the idea of the coaltrol and feel this maybe the best setup for my situation. I also like that the company is very active on this forum. I could get help if I needed strait from the people who build them. I feel customer service and being able to talk with the owner or someone from the company with knowledge is worth a lot.

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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite
Location: Cecil County, MD

Post Fri. May. 23, 2014 6:47 am

I haven't seen you mention what your heat needs are yet. That should be the first thing you figure out to make sure you are getting a unit that is big enough to handle what you are going to ask of it. Any coal stove you get will help you save money even if it is 'supplemental' heat. But if you have a large drafty house and live in a cold windy location and only get a 75k BTU unit expecting it to fully heat your place you will probably be disappointed in the middle of winter.
I drive a VW TDI, heat my home & workshop with two coal stokers and have two vintage JD diesel tractors....
The EPA just loves me!!

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Post Fri. May. 23, 2014 7:04 am

titleist1 wrote:I haven't seen you mention what your heat needs are yet. That should be the first thing you figure out to make sure you are getting a unit that is big enough to handle what you are going to ask of it. Any coal stove you get will help you save money even if it is 'supplemental' heat. But if you have a large drafty house and live in a cold windy location and only get a 75k BTU unit expecting it to fully heat your place you will probably be disappointed in the middle of winter.
Stove will be secondary heat source to save money, looking to heat about 1800sqft well insulated home 2x6 wall construction stove will be in upstairs in living room next to family room.


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