AK 110 Coaltrol Max Setting

A Coal stoker furnace or stove controls most operations including automatically feeding the coal. They are quite similar to any conventional oil and gas units and easily operated for extended periods of time. They commonly use rice coal but may use larger sizes like buckwheat. They can be used as primary heat, supplementary heat or have a dual set up with your existing oil/gas furnace.
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Post Mon. Mar. 24, 2014 10:25 pm

I seems that when I run a 'feed 10' I have burning coal coming off the the end of the grate regardless of how much I turn down the MAX setting. I knocked the max all the way down to 15 from 32 with no difference. Hot coals falling into the ash bin.

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Post Mon. Mar. 24, 2014 10:28 pm

heatwithcoal wrote:I seems that when I run a 'feed 10' I have burning coal coming off the the end of the grate regardless of how much I turn down the MAX setting. I knocked the max all the way down to 15 from 32 with no difference. Hot coals falling into the ash bin.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Mark
Why are you running feed 10?
Feed 10 will feed coal constantly for 10mins it is not controlled by the MAX. Ignore feed 10 and just don't use it.
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Post Mon. Mar. 24, 2014 10:29 pm

Tips & Tricks

Read the last post.
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Post Mon. Mar. 24, 2014 10:31 pm

Funny, I used to use Feed10 with my Econo II to get quick heat and had no issues with hot coals. Okay will forget it on the AK110.
But now that you mention it it makes sense that it is totally independent of the max ....I was lucky with the Econo I guess.
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Post Mon. Mar. 24, 2014 10:36 pm

Cant explain why. I just never use it. LOL. I will have to play with it sometime.
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Post Tue. Mar. 25, 2014 7:02 am

I have played with it a number of times on exactly this stove (I have two of them). Supposedly it livens the fire quickly. Wastes coal and is not a useful feature on this stove. You are better off raising the thermostat and MAX. GREAT stoves just forget this feature.
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Post Tue. Mar. 25, 2014 7:24 am

It seems that the coal piled up more on the grate, making a thicker coal bed on the econo when I used it. But on the AK110 the coal seems to just slide down the grate falling off the end.
I loved how this quick jolt of heat worked on the Econo II. I don't suppose there is a different way to get quick heat on the AK110?

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Post Tue. Mar. 25, 2014 7:36 am

Is your stove exactly level? It's just a big stove and things take a while. With rice it seems to smother the fire more but with buck it may be better as there is more air flow. Buck is my next experiment in the depth of next winter. Your smaller stove may respond quicker but thats a local effect. Due to the ultra high heat transfer of the Anthra-King your house will just warm up quicker (In my application). You just need some play time, trust me it's worth it . I have a Pocono and I know - they are just different beasts. For instance, once winter gets serious I disconnect the distribution fan from the coal trol and just run it from main power directly. My 14" round duct means the LFM is still very low and the air stream is constantly HEPA filtered. Only way to fly. Why people like the Hyfire over these remains one of the universes great mysteries.

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Post Tue. Mar. 25, 2014 7:56 am

heatwithcoal wrote:It seems that the coal piled up more on the grate, making a thicker coal bed on the econo when I used it. But on the AK110 the coal seems to just slide down the grate falling off the end.
I loved how this quick jolt of heat worked on the Econo II. I don't suppose there is a different way to get quick heat on the AK110?

Mark
Check level Like coalnewbie said. The grate on the 110k and 70k are same exact angle. The difference is the 110 is longer which should make the opposite be true. If I want to stoke up the stove faster I just grab the carpet and push it in and out 2 or 3 times. My other question is why all the manual operations? Is your max set right? If the max is set to low it will respond slower.
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Post Tue. Mar. 25, 2014 8:22 am

I change the MIN and MAX according to the severity of the weather. So a little tweak to consider is going from cold to brutal.

MIN MAX

3............12
7...........25
13..........BTTW (where TW is the wall)

The stove responds quicker and the feed 10 is not useful.
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Post Tue. Mar. 25, 2014 9:02 am

I will check to ensure it is level. ( however I am sure I did this when installing but cant quite remember. My mind is like a steel bear trap, rusty and illegal in 48 states). When I get home from work I like to heat up the house quickly. So I am not really performing a lot of manual operations just trying the feed10 on this stove . It would be nice if the coaltrol had more than one day/night set back. Like early morning/late morning/afternoon/early evening/night time :D But seriously, I would like to have a morning/evening/night setback.

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Post Tue. Mar. 25, 2014 9:20 am

I am not a fan of day setbacks with coal heat and this is not the thread to start a war with the zoned hydronics boys. As uglysquirrel once termed it just heat soak the house and run with it, adjusting to weather of course. The amount of fuel you save anyway is small with this stove. I guess we all run differently and that s what makes coal interesting.
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Post Tue. Mar. 25, 2014 10:57 am

My wife is home during the day and likes it cooler in the house. I, on the other-hand like it warmer when I get home in the evening. I suppose it would be simple enough to set the set back to increase temp about hour before I get home, then I could manually knock the temp back down on my way to bed.
Thinking too much as the cold continues....
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Coal Size/Type: Rice,
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Post Tue. Mar. 25, 2014 11:14 am

Thinking too much as the cold continues....
Give her an outside job in her underware. Something with a pick axe would be good, then she will love a warm house to come back to. As this winter drags on (and on and on and on) I love to think how much I am saving with my coal stoves. The original plan was to set aside that estimated money saved by heating with coal and splurge it on nice things. Now nice things is saving the money for NY taxes. :(
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