I Want to Put in a Coal Stove

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McGiever
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Post Sun. Sep. 29, 2013 5:22 pm

grumpy wrote:How much to replace the liner when it fails, if you notice that is..
Only way to know when liner fails is after CO alarm goes off...better add a good alarm.
The bad part is you may not notice the corroded liner till it collapses and blocks the fires gases exit route.
Most warranties only cover new liner cost...you still pay for the labor if you're around still...need good alarm. :roll:

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Post Sun. Sep. 29, 2013 5:26 pm

So, you're set on your decision. That's good, keep us updated & don't forget, we love pix :) PS--took myself, a neighbor and a hand truck to get my HITZER into the house & set up---up 2 steps from rear of house--1/2 day--YES, holes were already cut in ceiling & roof--you don't have that problem

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Post Sun. Sep. 29, 2013 5:48 pm

freetown fred wrote:So, you're set on your decision. That's good, keep us updated & don't forget, we love pix :) PS--took myself, a neighbor and a hand truck to get my HITZER into the house & set up---up 2 steps from rear of house--1/2 day--YES, holes were already cut in ceiling & roof--you don't have that problem
Did you have had some type of ramp? Did you rent a truck with a ramp or use a pickup? Did you use a regular hand truck or an appliance one? How did you pick it up to get in atop the hearth? I consider myself pretty strong but I would not attempt to pick up 600# from ground with one person and put in pickup. There needs to be some work smarter not harder applied strategies. I have not made any definite decision. I would rather purchase the used. Please share you know how on the install for me. Thanks!


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Post Sun. Sep. 29, 2013 6:37 pm

ColdHouse wrote:Guy said he never cleaned the stove pipe insert in 4 & 1/2 seasons..
Unless there is horizontal run or angles a flue used for coal rarely needs cleaning regardless of what the flue is made of. Horizontal pipes are another matter, fly ash will accumulate in them and generally that has to be done once a year but it could be more.

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Post Sun. Sep. 29, 2013 7:21 pm

example of 19" existing fireplace hearth, stove fits inside the fireplace opening slightly (I could have eased it in more if I wanted but for purposes of heating I did not want it fully inside the fireplace), load and shake twice per day (same as any other manual feed stove hopper or not) if im around during the day sometimes I'll tend it just because I cant resist ;) All the benefits of a free standing, solid welded, manual coal stove with a lot of the advantages of a fireplace insert and pretty décor of a cast iron stove.

total cost = $300.00 after new gaskets, glass and paint (the other $300 went into the fireplace tile and new steel lintel). I bet a Company could sell them like hotcakes for just this application :lol:
Notice the built in heat plate and fully adjustable feet to sit perfectly on any irregular brick or stone work :clap:
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Post Sun. Sep. 29, 2013 7:26 pm

(the other $300 went into the fireplace tile and new steel lintel
Who picked out the tiles, perhaps you can sue .... hahahahahahaha I slay myself.


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Post Sun. Sep. 29, 2013 7:32 pm

coalnewbie wrote:
(the other $300 went into the fireplace tile and new steel lintel
Who picked out the tiles, perhaps you can sue .... hahahahahahaha I slay myself.
I owe you one for that :mad3: I happen to love arts and crafts style (I will admit... these tiles are not the best quality as proven by that one tile I used scotch brite on :( (I will re-color it with some stove paint free hand to fix it because im not busting it out to replace it)... I still need to clean the lintel and touch up with stove some stove brown, I just finished that oak dental mantel (BTW... that guy Mike who moved to Virginia gave me so much stuff I have builder supplies for years! :dancing: ) ... I only wish he was still near me because this dude is the most helpful, giving dude Ive ever met.

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Post Sun. Sep. 29, 2013 9:50 pm

If you strip all the removable parts...
Bricks, Grates, Doors...
She gets very easy to move...
Work Smart...
Not Hard...
Hand truck, strap and rollers...

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Post Mon. Sep. 30, 2013 6:23 am

coalnewbie wrote:
(the other $300 went into the fireplace tile and new steel lintel
Who picked out the tiles, perhaps you can sue .... hahahahahahaha I slay myself.
:lol: :lol: :dancing:

All jokes aside, it looks like a very smart use of a fireplace. Tough to tell how much of the stove sticks out past the tiles? How do you access the stove pipe for maintenance? Pull the stove out?

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Post Mon. Sep. 30, 2013 6:31 am

Rob R. wrote:
coalnewbie wrote: Who picked out the tiles, perhaps you can sue .... hahahahahahaha I slay myself.
:lol: :lol: :dancing:

All jokes aside, it looks like a very smart use of a fireplace. Tough to tell how much of the stove sticks out past the tiles? How do you access the stove pipe for maintenance? Pull the stove out?
It has a removable baffle that not only allows for super simple clean out/inspection but it also allows for side air channels that help to force the hot gases out towards the sides of the stove before exit out the flu.(take note of the flow of gases below when you maximize the center photo its easy to see, you can clearly see how the exhaust comes of the sides of the steel stove before exiting)... this by the way was a severely overfired Crane Stove that maintained surface temps over 1000 degrees for years on end.

I have my stove only about 1" into the fireplace opening (to try and maximize heat output), but if I used the blower on it, I would push it back another 6 or 7 inches (so half the width of the stove was in the fireplace and half the width was outside the fireplace opening)... it would essentially appear like an insert at that point (the heat radiated of the rear of the unit and into the fireplace would be forced out forward into the living space).
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