Anyone Having Out Fires

A Coal stoker furnace or stove controls most operations including automatically feeding the coal. They are quite similar to any conventional oil and gas units and easily operated for extended periods of time. They commonly use rice coal but may use larger sizes like buckwheat. They can be used as primary heat, supplementary heat or have a dual set up with your existing oil/gas furnace.
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BigFoot
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AA130
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Location: 102 Marchak Lane Greenfield PA

Post Fri. Aug. 09, 2013 11:11 am

I had two out fires in a week ,all seams gook with boiler,even cleaned the chimney ,got to go get some more charcoal and get her going again ! My fire is olny for hot water maybe my temp/setting and timer is to low and timer set to long to keep it going at summer time !

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Post Fri. Aug. 09, 2013 11:50 am

BigFoot wrote:I had two out fires in a week ,all seams gook with boiler,even cleaned the chimney ,got to go get some more charcoal and get her going again ! My fire is olny for hot water maybe my temp/setting and timer is to low and timer set to long to keep it going at summer time !
You should have a manometer to see exactly what your chimney draft is, which is most likely the cause of the problem. Using it to set temperature and timing for minimum draft I think is the best course.

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Post Fri. Aug. 09, 2013 3:32 pm

My meter said .04 to.06 should have good !


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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
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Post Fri. Aug. 09, 2013 3:57 pm

Does the grate "ash" when the unit is running? If everything checks out, Perhaps you do need a longer timer cycle.

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Post Fri. Aug. 09, 2013 8:17 pm

My AA130 was about 95% out a few weeks back when temps were in the 90's here for a week. I just happened to catch it and saved the fire. I had my baro weight set all the way to L which was from the winter and I usually move it over to H in the spring time to get a little more draft but forgot this year. My timer is set as low as it will go, maybe 30 seconds each half hour.
Gouldsboro PA.

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Post Fri. Aug. 09, 2013 9:06 pm

Thanks for your
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Post Fri. Aug. 09, 2013 9:15 pm

Had issue awhile back when temps and humidity was high, added pins to timer. Been burning good with no issues lately.
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Post Mon. Aug. 12, 2013 5:52 pm

My DF520 usually goes out for a day or two when the temp is over 90 and the humidity is insufferable, so I expected a problem about a month ago during that hot spell. Well, the boiler went out at least three times since then. I adjusted the feed, the water temps, and the draft. I cleaned out the inside of the boiler and did a laundry list of other things. Right now, I have the water temps between 140 and 190 and the feed is at three clicks. The only other problem may be the coal----the ashes seem to be very heavy. If I can't maintain a fire now, I may trade in my Cadillac for a Pinto.
Aristes, PA

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Post Mon. Aug. 12, 2013 8:23 pm

chlop wrote:My DF520 usually goes out for a day or two when the temp is over 90 and the humidity is insufferable, so I expected a problem about a month ago during that hot spell. Well, the boiler went out at least three times since then. I adjusted the feed, the water temps, and the draft. I cleaned out the inside of the boiler and did a laundry list of other things. Right now, I have the water temps between 140 and 190 and the feed is at three clicks. The only other problem may be the coal----the ashes seem to be very heavy. If I can't maintain a fire now, I may trade in my Cadillac for a Pinto.
If you have an EFM 520 that experiences outfires, I recommend you reset everything to EFM's recommended settings and go from there. I have NEVER had an outfire using their recommended settings...but I have tried to outsmart the system a few times and experienced a few outfires. ;)

Also, if you have poor draft, poor coal, or both...you will have problems with whatever coal burning appliance you are trying to use.

Baseline settings for a 520: 160 low, 200 high, 10 differential. 4 teeth feed, 4 air (or a touch more), 2 minutes every half hour on the timer. My boiler has been running all summer with those settings, trouble-free.

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