Replace Oil Burner With Coal Stoker?

A Coal stoker furnace or stove controls most operations including automatically feeding the coal. They are quite similar to any conventional oil and gas units and easily operated for extended periods of time. They commonly use rice coal but may use larger sizes like buckwheat. They can be used as primary heat, supplementary heat or have a dual set up with your existing oil/gas furnace.
Inherited Axeman 130
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Post Wed. Jun. 05, 2013 2:56 pm

While I was out of town, my brother-in-law had his friend replace my Mom's old Axeman Anderson 130 coal stoker with a new EFM oil furnace.
His friend, who only deals in oil burners and sells heating oil, said the AA was a dinosaur and had to go.
He also told Mom her annual heating cost would double going from coal to oil.
Here we are a year later and her actual cost was 3 and 1/2 times more with the oil...which she can't afford...And she was always cold in her house.

We are seriously considering having someone tear out the oil furnace and install a refurbished EFM ( or other ) coal stoker.
I will be taking care of coal and ashes, etc. just like before with the AA, so upkeep on her part is not an issue.

Your thoughts?


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blrman07
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Post Wed. Jun. 05, 2013 4:06 pm

Such a deal I got for you. I sell heating oil and just happen to also sell oil fired equipment. I'm going to badmouth anything other than oil burners and convince you to get rid of anything else and only buy the oil burning equipment and oil from me.

I'm going to make money hand over fist while you fork it over. I'm not going to tell you that the coal burners operate 200% cheaper than my oil burning equipment. Why would I want to do that because when you find that out you'll go with the cheaper operating costs and kick me to the curb.

Make Sense>????

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Post Wed. Jun. 05, 2013 5:40 pm

If 180 gallons of oil equals a ton of coal in heat output, then if that oil costs $700 it means that you would have to pay $200 for a ton of coal delivered for your figures to be accurate.

If coal costs more than that in your area then I would suspect that the oil burner is not burning correctly or the furnace is junk.

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Post Wed. Jun. 05, 2013 7:25 pm

Looks to me like yer brother in law did a good hosing. Absolutely. Get that oil furnace outta there and set her up with coal since yer maintaining it. Kick yer brother in laws ass when your done hahaha.

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Post Thu. Jun. 06, 2013 1:40 am

The oil heat guys are not near as bad as the ones pushing propane.
Burning western Pennsylvania Bituminous in WNY using model 77 stoker furnace. BITUMINOUS equiptment: 2 hand fired stoves of my own design, Many Combustioneer Model 77 stokers, stokermatic furnace, Many Will-Burt stokers, & and Two Iron firemen.

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Post Thu. Jun. 06, 2013 7:21 am

Hey I.A.130,
just remember your mom. When you go out of town next time, who will be taking care of the ashes and coal. Or if something happens to you. Make sure you leave a backup. A new oil EFM would do good backup duty. ;)
I think a man does what he can, untill his destiny is revealed. Right now that is trying to sell my EFM plate boilers in 520 and 700 sizes.

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Post Thu. Jun. 06, 2013 9:22 am

Scott makes a great point. That EFM oil unit will be very nice if the coal unit needs attention or no one will be available for a week or two to tend the ashes.

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Post Thu. Jun. 06, 2013 3:45 pm

Rob R. wrote:Scott makes a great point. That EFM oil unit will be very nice if the coal unit needs attention or no one will be available for a week or two to tend the ashes.
Scottscoaled wrote:Hey I.A.130,
just remember your mom. When you go out of town next time, who will be taking care of the ashes and coal. Or if something happens to you. Make sure you leave a backup. A new oil EFM would do good backup duty. ;)
so what did they do with the old AA,can it be put back in use with the new oil burner??


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Post Thu. Jun. 06, 2013 3:50 pm

Dennis wrote:so what did they do with the old AA,can it be put back in use with the new oil burner??
His plumber friend took it...said "It wasn't worth anything".

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Post Thu. Jun. 06, 2013 5:45 pm

Yeah I bet he took it. Got a premium coal burner for free!!!
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Post Thu. Jun. 06, 2013 9:23 pm

A fraud has been perpetrated!
Nothing is impossible for people who don't have to do it themselves.

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Post Thu. Jun. 06, 2013 10:17 pm

Inherited Axeman 130 wrote:
Dennis wrote:so what did they do with the old AA,can it be put back in use with the new oil burner??
His plumber friend took it...said "It wasn't worth anything".
I bet the district attorney's office would go pretty easy on you if you evened the score! Even better if he or she burned coal :gee:
never yell through a screen...you'll strain your voice.

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Post Thu. Jun. 06, 2013 10:44 pm

Inherited Axeman 130 wrote:
Dennis wrote:so what did they do with the old AA,can it be put back in use with the new oil burner??
His plumber friend took it...said "It wasn't worth anything".
I would be pretty pissed at your brother in law for setting this in motion.

How many gallons of oil did your mom burn this past winter?

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Post Fri. Jun. 07, 2013 2:17 pm

Rob R. wrote:How many gallons of oil did your mom burn this past winter?
$3,400 versus $1,000 for coal.

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Post Fri. Jun. 07, 2013 4:35 pm

This is just highway robbery. :nono: I will never go back to oil... EVER. If anything I will install some electric baseboard heaters for a backup if I decide to take a nice vacation in January/February. I feel sorry for you, your family boned you pretty good. Learning's outta this will last a lifetime, I have had a few of these learnings myself so welcome to the club.
Anthony


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