We Don't Need No Stinkin' Natural Gas

A Coal stoker furnace or stove controls most operations including automatically feeding the coal. They are quite similar to any conventional oil and gas units and easily operated for extended periods of time. They commonly use rice coal but may use larger sizes like buckwheat. They can be used as primary heat, supplementary heat or have a dual set up with your existing oil/gas furnace.
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McGiever
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek
Location: Junction of PA-OH-WV

Post Thu. Apr. 11, 2013 1:45 pm

SLOW AND STEADY WINS THE RACE

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lsayre
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)
Location: N/E Ohio, between Medina and Wadsworth

Post Thu. Apr. 11, 2013 7:26 pm

If that's how boilers are made in the Slavic regions of Europe, then manufacturing in America is doomed. Reminds me of when I made a business trip to Italy to work on a joint venture chemical manufacturing project and I was shocked and totally humbled by their high level of technology and innovation vs. our chemical plants, which are dumps by comparison. You could eat off of the floors of their chemical plants. Ours are sewers of filth and decay by comparison.
-Larry

Democracy rests upon the principle that collective wisdom arises from a pool of individual ignorance. A Republic rests squarely upon objective law, and fundamentally upon those laws which restrict the scope and actions of government.

samhill
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: keystoker 160
Hand Fed Coal Stove: hitzer 75 in garage
Stove/Furnace Make: keystoker/hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: koker 160/ hitzer 75
Location: Linesville, Pa.

Post Thu. Apr. 11, 2013 7:40 pm

We used to be the leader in almost every industry but then we choose to follow in what we have left after moving most of ours South or off shore for profit. Isayre just as the chemical plants you mention the steel mills are the same, when visited by foreigners their first question was always where are the workers & the second was how can they produce a quality product with this equipment. American industry for the most part is just running itself into the ground, when it can't go no more it's done & time to close up another shop. :cry: :mad:
"Any fool can criticize, condemn & complain & most fools do." Benjamin Franklin


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Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)
Location: N/E Ohio, between Medina and Wadsworth

Post Thu. Apr. 11, 2013 7:47 pm

samhill wrote:We used to be the leader in almost every industry but then we choose to follow in what we have left after moving most of ours South or off shore for profit. Isayre just as the chemical plants you mention the steel mills are the same, when visited by foreigners their first question was always where are the workers & the second was how can they produce a quality product with this equipment. American industry for the most part is just running itself into the ground, when it can't go no more it's done & time to close up another shop. :cry: :mad:
Well said!
-Larry

Democracy rests upon the principle that collective wisdom arises from a pool of individual ignorance. A Republic rests squarely upon objective law, and fundamentally upon those laws which restrict the scope and actions of government.

samhill
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: keystoker 160
Hand Fed Coal Stove: hitzer 75 in garage
Stove/Furnace Make: keystoker/hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: koker 160/ hitzer 75
Location: Linesville, Pa.

Post Thu. Apr. 11, 2013 7:51 pm

On a side note I read where some of the European block are now also seriously looking into fracking since most of Europe & Russia have deposits just like us.
"Any fool can criticize, condemn & complain & most fools do." Benjamin Franklin

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Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: KAA-2
Location: Morgantown ,Penna

Post Fri. Apr. 12, 2013 7:42 am

The boiler film is impressive. America's process used to be impressive.We could be impressive again but for the National will to do just that. Unfortunately, the people that recognize what we are flushing down the drain have no influence on the lawmakers to reverse the downward spiral.Greed rules. Mike


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Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Liberty
Location: Lehigh Valley Pa.

Post Fri. Apr. 12, 2013 12:58 pm

Amen brother. I am off in a few weeks to visit engineering and manufacturing facilities in Asia and Europe and it is amazing how high-tech and well run most of the facilities are. Many are self sufficient operations because they do not have the public infrastructure to support them.

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Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek
Location: Junction of PA-OH-WV

Post Fri. Apr. 12, 2013 2:18 pm

The BEAN COUNTER is the demise of our once Great Nation...very short sighted, in my opinion.

Other Nations Corporations are willing to make their return on investment (ROI) over a longer period...not the desperate "I want it back Quick,Now!"

Corporate decisions on how to make Capital Improvements used to be made by Smart Men...like old, experienced engineers, etc.
SLOW AND STEADY WINS THE RACE

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Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Blaschak Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)
Location: N/E Ohio, between Medina and Wadsworth

Post Fri. Apr. 12, 2013 2:36 pm

I agree that our standard yet archaic corporate requirement for capital appropriations to show full payback, and then subsequent profitability within only 2 to at most 3 years is in this day and age insane, and will eventually be our corporate death-knell.
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-Larry

Democracy rests upon the principle that collective wisdom arises from a pool of individual ignorance. A Republic rests squarely upon objective law, and fundamentally upon those laws which restrict the scope and actions of government.

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Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek
Location: Junction of PA-OH-WV

Post Fri. Apr. 12, 2013 2:46 pm

Yes, and guess where a lot of money is coming from that is going into the big shale gas plays???
I mean BIG MONEY!!! Not the USA. :(

Our American Corporations are doing what they do best...Screwing the landowners, the public, the customers and dodging as many of the regulations as they can.
SLOW AND STEADY WINS THE RACE

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