Buying a Pioneer

A Coal stoker furnace or stove controls most operations including automatically feeding the coal. They are quite similar to any conventional oil and gas units and easily operated for extended periods of time. They commonly use rice coal but may use larger sizes like buckwheat. They can be used as primary heat, supplementary heat or have a dual set up with your existing oil/gas furnace.
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Post Fri. Nov. 30, 2007 10:37 pm

Well I sold my pellet stove finally and have done alot of research and have decided to get the Pioneer top vent. It was between that or a keystoker sw90.. Hopefully I have made the right choice. I'm trying to heat 1400sq'...I assume the Pioneer will put out sufficient heat to cover my needs. My wood stove put out 60,000 to 90,000 BTU's which I sold for the pellet and now will be replacing with the LL. I will be ordering from Jerry also since he ships.

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Post Sat. Dec. 01, 2007 2:53 am

Great choice, I have the same stove & it exceeded my expectations. One mistake I made was tweaking the coal-trol settings prematurely. If I can give you one tip, run the stove for a few days with the default settings & then adjust as necessary. I learned that compared to other heating sources a coal stove is slower coming up to temperature & slower going down. It’s like the difference between slow roasting & microwave cooking, I prefer the slow roast. :) Good luck.
Stephen
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Post Sat. Dec. 01, 2007 12:06 pm

I will do that.. The coal-trol looks a little intimidating I was looking at the user manual last night but I guess I'll get used to it.. Thanks


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Post Sat. Dec. 01, 2007 1:41 pm

The coal-trol can be mostly plug and play.
The only setting you will have to adjust right away (besides the day and night temp) is the Min.
My coal-trol came set at Min=4. I found that Min=5 would keep the stove lit when the FR would go to zero, but now that the cold weather is here, I raised my Min to 11.

A DVD should have come with the stove.

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Post Sat. Dec. 01, 2007 8:25 pm

xackley wrote:The coal-trol can be mostly plug and play.
The only setting you will have to adjust right away (besides the day and night temp) is the Min.
My coal-trol came set at Min=4. I found that Min=5 would keep the stove lit when the FR would go to zero, but now that the cold weather is here, I raised my Min to 11.

A DVD should have come with the stove.
Sounds good . I haven't got the stove yet . I just ordered it from Karen today and she had mentioned a instructional dvd...I assume your talking about the feed-rate. Karen had mentioned to set the barometric damper to 4?. I'm hoping all that is explained in the DVD... Thanks for the replys

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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Hyfire I, VF3000 Soon
Location: Cuba, NY
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Post Mon. Dec. 03, 2007 10:06 am

I keep my Hyfire Coaltrol Setting on 5 min and 47 max, it seems to work the best.
There are sample setting in the book, I think the normal for the LL stoves is 6 min and 40 max to start with.

Here a good thread on the Baro Damper...she meant 0.04 setting, see pics in the thread for settings..
Install a Barometric Damper on a Stoker Stove/Furnace?
- Dave
Hyfire I & Keystoker 90K heating an 1890 Victorian
- Amsoil Authorized T1 Certified Dealer


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Post Mon. May. 19, 2008 5:47 pm

Here is a LL Pioneer in action with pedal to the the metal. "its like staring into the sun".:)
Stephen
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Post Sun. Jul. 13, 2008 7:09 pm

Just wondering.

How much coal do these things burn per hour/day, overall? Max?

Also, how much do they cost?

How much does the pioneer cost and how much does the "econo 1" cost"??

Thanks

Alan

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Post Sun. Jul. 13, 2008 10:17 pm

mogul397 wrote:Just wondering.

How much coal do these things burn per hour/day, overall? Max?
I have burned anywhere from 12# to 85# a day. My average per day is 39# for the entire heating season (Oct-May). And I am heating 2000sqft. keeping the T-stat set at 73 degrees.
Take Care and God Bless
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Post Mon. Jul. 14, 2008 6:41 am

mogul397 wrote:How much coal do these things burn per hour/day, overall? Max?
Just about the same numbers as gambler.
mogul397 wrote:Also, how much do they cost?
For price:
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Stephen
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