Re: Stove Won't Stay Lit
Posted: Thu. Dec. 08, 2011 11:26 pm
Nope, Grumpy, that's not it, but I saw them mentioned in the same breath wherever it was I saw the thing about flare pieces.
Using anthracite or bituminous coal for residential and commercial heating.
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Yup. that's the cam part you're seeing rotating. Carpet is attached to that and should move accordingly.mhoose wrote:I'm still not positive what you're referring to, but more observation: When I hear the motor run (or make it run by setting the Coaltrol to feed) I can see above the motor a part that moves apparently on a circular track and moves a piece that connects inside the stove back and forth. That part is moving, I can't see what is happening inside the stove.tsb wrote:The cam may be loose on the feed motor shaft.
The cam moves the carpet and feeds the coal.
Nope, gloves are both there, but I think you may have hit the nail on the head. This morning the stove is running fine. I did get up during the night and give it some manual assistance (I physically moved coal forward so it would be over the air holes.) I actually expected it to be out this morning, but to my surprise it was going fairly strong.McGiever wrote:Yup. that's the cam part you're seeing rotating. Carpet is attached to that and should move accordingly.mhoose wrote: I'm still not positive what you're referring to, but more observation: When I hear the motor run (or make it run by setting the Coaltrol to feed) I can see above the motor a part that moves apparently on a circular track and moves a piece that connects inside the stove back and forth. That part is moving, I can't see what is happening inside the stove.
Maybe you have a blockage, something stuck or wedged in there and holding back the coal being fed onto grate. Are you missing one of your gloves?
Since you are looking things over, when did you last look to see if you have an accumulation of fines under your grate? If it was accumulated fines hindering coal being pushed above the grate, there maybe some below the grate also.mhoose wrote:Nope, gloves are both there, but I think you may have hit the nail on the head. This morning the stove is running fine. I did get up during the night and give it some manual assistance (I physically moved coal forward so it would be over the air holes.) I actually expected it to be out this morning, but to my surprise it was going fairly strong.McGiever wrote: Yup. that's the cam part you're seeing rotating. Carpet is attached to that and should move accordingly.
Maybe you have a blockage, something stuck or wedged in there and holding back the coal being fed onto grate. Are you missing one of your gloves?
So the next question is, how do I prevent this from happening again? Is there a way to get in there and sort of clean out any little bits that may be jamming or blocking? My plan today is to let the hopper get kind of empty so I can see where the coal exits the hopper into the stove and see if I can determine anything there that might have causes a jam/block. That's all after work, of course.
I will indeed check those - I can see the cam, of course, as well as the mounts. The cam does move appropriately, so I'm thinking that instead of being loose there was something blocking the coal from moving. (Notice I used past tense, it seems to be working fine today.)WNY wrote:Check the CAM tightness, they are just threaded onto the gearbox shaft, SOMETIMES, if it gets bound up, it comes loose. Mine did that once. The motor and everything was working fine, it just wasn't pushing the coal and would go out. OR somethign is bent or loosened up, Check the stoker motor mounting nuts came loose, the pusher plate got bent, etc.....
I have thought about that, but I don't know how to access under the grate. It's all enclosed and from the back it looks as though it goes through the wall of the stove and the motor, fan, etc. are mounted there with a gasket on it - looks like a huge deal to get out and only a small chance there is something in there. If there's an easy way I'm not seeing please let me know.McGiever wrote:mhoose wrote:
Thanks for the reply, and I think you hit the nail on the head. I do see back and forth movement behind the stove, so I think there was something maybe blocking the movement from actually moving coal. FWIW, I had the hopper full prior to this, I usually add about a hod per day. The coal is not wet. I'm purposely letting the coal level get low now so I can see where it enters the stove from the hopper to see if it looks like there is/was anything there hindering. My guess is whatever it was is no longer there.theo wrote:it almost sounds like the coal is not feeding from the hopper unto the carpet, look back behind the stove and see if you see any movement ( back and forth action ) on your carpet. maybe your coal is hung up in the hopper or were it drops unto the carpet. Have you had to add any coal to your hopper? is the coal wet? just a few things to check for. keep us posted on what you may find,,,, that way we all can learn a little something !