Leisure Line Pioneer LE Back Vent Question

A Coal stoker furnace or stove controls most operations including automatically feeding the coal. They are quite similar to any conventional oil and gas units and easily operated for extended periods of time. They commonly use rice coal but may use larger sizes like buckwheat. They can be used as primary heat, supplementary heat or have a dual set up with your existing oil/gas furnace.
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Post Sat. Jan. 01, 2011 8:32 am

Can the Pioneer LE Back Vent be successfully connected to a conventional through the ceiling/roof stack, or must it be used only either in an old fireplace retrofit application, or with their through the wall "power vent" option? Their fanfold brochure suggests only the latter two options for this rear venting stove.
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Post Sat. Jan. 01, 2011 9:20 am

I wouldn't think it would be a problem, My HYFIRE is a bottom/back vent and hooked to a standard chimney, the pipe just has to come up a little higher from almost floor level. But the guys from LL can tell your details.
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Post Sat. Jan. 01, 2011 9:28 am

lsayre wrote:Can the Pioneer LE Back Vent be successfully connected to a conventional through the ceiling/roof stack, or must it be used only either in an old fireplace retrofit application, or with their through the wall "power vent" option?
Obviously a top vent would be the suggested stove of choice for that type installation, but I would think you could use a back vent as well.. I would expect that if hooking up to an existing class A dual wall stainless chimney system that was previously used for say a wood burning stove with a top vent that a rear vent Pioneer is going to be set out into the room quite a bit seeing that the vertical riser will need to clear the feeder/hopper assy on the way up... No more than 2 90* turns in the system... Also not sure what stovepipe to hopper clearance requirements are but could be as much as 18" or reduced down to 6" with an approved heatshield or double wall black stovepipe... Don't want to get a hot arm while loading the hopper...

Also would want to use a 'tee' in place of a '90* elbow' at the horizontal to vertical transition for fly ash removal... and obviously cap off the open end while the stove is in operation...

I personally would stay away from that setup and there may be plenty more reasons not to do it that someone else could help out with here... Could it be done, I'm sure as long as any and all clearance requirements are met...
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Post Sat. Jan. 01, 2011 10:59 am

MURDOC1 wrote:
lsayre wrote:Can the Pioneer LE Back Vent be successfully connected to a conventional through the ceiling/roof stack, or must it be used only either in an old fireplace retrofit application, or with their through the wall "power vent" option?
Obviously a top vent would be the suggested stove of choice for that type installation, but I would think you could use a back vent as well.. I would expect that if hooking up to an existing class A dual wall stainless chimney system that was previously used for say a wood burning stove with a top vent that a rear vent Pioneer is going to be set out into the room quite a bit seeing that the vertical riser will need to clear the feeder/hopper assy on the way up... No more than 2 90* turns in the system... Also not sure what stovepipe to hopper clearance requirements are but could be as much as 18" or reduced down to 6" with an approved heatshield or double wall black stovepipe... Don't want to get a hot arm while loading the hopper...

Also would want to use a 'tee' in place of a '90* elbow' at the horizontal to vertical transition for fly ash removal... and obviously cap off the open end while the stove is in operation...

I personally would stay away from that setup and there may be plenty more reasons not to do it that someone else could help out with here... Could it be done, I'm sure as long as any and all clearance requirements are met...
Either model T.v. or B.V can be used ,but as stated the T.V. is a much easier install in that application . Thanks,Dave
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
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Location: N/E Ohio, between Medina and Wadsworth

Post Sat. Jan. 01, 2011 5:20 pm

Thank you all for the help here!
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