Keystoker Koker, Direct Vent Maintenance

A Coal stoker furnace or stove controls most operations including automatically feeding the coal. They are quite similar to any conventional oil and gas units and easily operated for extended periods of time. They commonly use rice coal but may use larger sizes like buckwheat. They can be used as primary heat, supplementary heat or have a dual set up with your existing oil/gas furnace.
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Post Fri. Feb. 16, 2007 11:00 am

I am just about to buy a Keystoker Koker direct vent to install in my basement. I have a center chimney but it is not lined and corbeled (?)(it angles up where it goes through the attic) and the chimney experts said no way to line it. My question is how long of a vent can I run horizontally and how often does it need to be cleaned out and how hard is it? I don't mind doing the work but I'm afraid of having to shut the stove down and take the vent all apart every few days will get tiring. I could run a 6" triple wall stainless chimney on the outside of the house but that will put the stove in a very undesireable spot and the added $$$$ doesn't help. Thanks for any advice.

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Post Fri. Feb. 16, 2007 11:17 am

You are much better off with an interior masonry chimney. Did you look into a cast in place liner? They will seal and stregthen the chimney. As long as it doesn't have any leaks (holes) you should be fine.
The longer the horizontal run, the more often you will need to clean it. I clean mine about twice per heating season, your mileage may vary.

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Post Sat. Feb. 17, 2007 12:55 pm

The chimney guy said for the price of cast in place liner I could buy an outdoor boiler. I didn't look into any further, the idea is to save money not go into debt,


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Post Sat. Feb. 17, 2007 4:10 pm

honestly I wouldn't be too worried about using an interior unlined chimney for coal only. wood is a different story, but with coal I wouldn't hesitate provided it's not completely falling apart.
Burning western Pennsylvania Bituminous in WNY using model 77 stoker furnace. BITUMINOUS equiptment: 2 hand fired stoves of my own design, Many Combustioneer Model 77 stokers, stokermatic furnace, Many Will-Burt stokers, & and Two Iron firemen.

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Post Sat. Feb. 17, 2007 10:28 pm

I grew up in a home with an interior unlined brick chimney that had a gentle offset in it. Burned Anthracite coal for 50+ years before we switched to natural gas. Never a problem and it's still going strong. At about year 50 the exterior bricks visible above the slate roof were replaced when the rusted tin flashing was replaced. Never burned wood except to start the coal fires.

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Post Sun. Feb. 18, 2007 2:09 pm

You can direct vent the Koker for far less money than a liner (stainless or cast in place), or a "Class A" chimney. Ideally you would want to run it into a chimney, but I have installed Keystoker boilers and 2 Keystoker 90s with the direct vent, and they operate just fine with minimal maintenance. Try to keep your horizontal run to a minimum and install a Tee section, to allow access to the horizontal run for easy cleaning. Remember, the longer the horizontal run, the more maintenance. I would try to keep it under 3 feet.

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