Question on installation of reading Lehigh stoker stove

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Post By: Zromonovich » Thu. Apr. 26, 2018 8:55 pm

I just got my hands on a reading Lehigh stoker stove (85000btu) that’s actually in pretty nice shape beside the glass on the door is cracked. Going to be ordering the replacement. Now my question is on the installation.

I’m going do a powervent instead of doing a full chimney. So my question is if the stove has a 6” flue does the power vent need to be a 6” as well or can I go with a 4”?

Secondly the stove is going in my finished basement. And will need to pass thru an interior wall then run 6 feet horizontal to a brick wall where it will exit. What is the proper way to safely pass thru this wall? Would it be wall thimble then insulated dual wall pipe?

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Post By: McGiever » Thu. Apr. 26, 2018 9:32 pm

Welcome Partner :out:

First thing you'll need to get is your Carbon Monoxide Alarm/Detector. :)

A 4 inch power-vent is what size to get.
Get a Fields RC barometric damper and don't forget the Field Controls WMO-1 fume switch since you will use a power-vent.

Yes, thimble and insulated stove pipe thru interior wall

Check your insulated pipe's clearance rating for going thru wall, most allow min. 2" clearance to combustibles.
And it's min. 18" clearance to combustibles on single wall stove pipe, but that can be reduced by adding a "heat shield" where needed.

BTW: That Reading Stoker has but 1 motor to do both the coal feeding and to blow combustion air with.
The pusher is called a "carpet". And you should have a controller to adjust the time duration and time interval in order to hold an "Idle Fire". Many have thermostat terminals too, that when wired to a t'stat will over-ride "idle fire" setting long enough to satisfy a room heat call, then default back to idle fire cycle again.

HTH

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Post By: Zromonovich » Thu. Apr. 26, 2018 10:13 pm

Will I also need a Rheostat to control the power vent fan speed? The stove I have does have a thermostat wired to it as well. Is the wm0-1 easier to wire up then it looks?
McGiever wrote:
Thu. Apr. 26, 2018 9:32 pm
Welcome Partner :out:

First thing you'll need to get is your Carbon Monoxide Alarm/Detector. :)

A 4 inch power-vent is what size to get.
Get a Fields RC barometric damper and don't forget the Field Controls WMO-1 fume switch since you will use a power-vent.

Yes, thimble and insulated stove pipe thru interior wall

Check your insulated pipe's clearance rating for going thru wall, most allow min. 2" clearance to combustibles.
And it's min. 18" clearance to combustibles on single wall stove pipe, but that can be reduced by adding a "heat shield" where needed.

BTW: That Reading Stoker has but 1 motor to do both the coal feeding and to blow combustion air with.
The pusher is called a "carpet". And you should have a controller to adjust the time duration and time interval in order to hold an "Idle Fire". Many have thermostat terminals too, that when wired to a t'stat will over-ride "idle fire" setting long enough to satisfy a room heat call, then default back to idle fire cycle again.

HTH

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Post By: McGiever » Fri. Apr. 27, 2018 11:04 am

Glean all you can from this:
Power vent.pdf
Everything you would need to know.
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Post By: Zromonovich » Tue. Jul. 10, 2018 8:12 pm

Would this be the correct rheostat for the power vent

https://www.amazon.com/Electronics-Variable-Speed ... ed+control

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Post By: Zromonovich » Tue. Jul. 10, 2018 8:16 pm

McGiever wrote:
Fri. Apr. 27, 2018 11:04 am
Glean all you can from this:

Power vent.pdf
How should I properly chose the location for the WMO-1. I only want to drill this once 😂

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Post By: McGiever » Tue. Jul. 10, 2018 8:21 pm

Zromonovich wrote:
Tue. Jul. 10, 2018 8:12 pm
Would this be the correct rheostat for the power vent

https://www.amazon.com/Electronics-Variable-Speed ... ed+control
NO, unless you really want a 230 volt model.

Same...but 115 volts

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Post By: McGiever » Tue. Jul. 10, 2018 8:30 pm

Zromonovich wrote:
Tue. Jul. 10, 2018 8:16 pm
How should I properly chose the location for the WMO-1. I only want to drill this once 😂
I did one once and did NOT drill into the stove body.

Drilled it into stove pipe, but you need to remember, you need to reach in and tighten a locking nut inside the pipe to mount it.

And you don't want it mounted so low that it gets buried in fly ash. I found it best having a "clean-out tee" which allows both reaching that locking nut and to have access to periodically clean out accumulated fly ash that gathers right there.


HTH :)

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Post By: Zromonovich » Tue. Jul. 10, 2018 9:42 pm

McGiever wrote:
Tue. Jul. 10, 2018 8:30 pm
I did one once and did NOT drill into the stove body.

Drilled it into stove pipe, but you need to remember, you need to reach in and tighten a locking nut inside the pipe to mount it.

And you don't want it mounted so low that it gets buried in fly ash. I found it best having a "clean-out tee" which allows both reaching that locking nut and to have access to periodically clean out accumulated fly ash that gathers right there.


HTH :)
That sounds like a pretty good idea! I’m going to give it a shot. I really didn’t want to drill into the stove body.

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Post By: Zromonovich » Tue. Aug. 28, 2018 8:38 pm

Ok everyone I’m getting so close to finishing up my install of the reading Lehigh. This should be one of my last few questions. I have the solid state timer that has two outlets on it then it runs to a thermostat. is one of the outlets for the fan and one is for the feeder motor. Or does the fan go directly into a wall outlet and only the carpet feeder goes into the solid state timer. In this case the fan would run constantly and the feeder motor would kick on only when the thermostat tells it to.

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Post By: McGiever » Wed. Aug. 29, 2018 12:34 am

Well, the timer is going to keep the fire on idle to keep the fire lit until the t'stat switches the feeder on steady to satisfy a heat call...then after a heat call timer resumes maintaining the idle fire again.

Your Carpet style Reading tri-burner stoker plugs into the timer box.
Your convection room blower can plug in to the wall outlet, it has separate controls inside the stove for cycling that blower.

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Post By: Zromonovich » Wed. Aug. 29, 2018 1:36 pm

Let me add a little more info. I’m referring to the fan for combustion air. Not for the room fan,blower. My reading does not have that feature.
McGiever wrote:
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Well, the timer is going to keep the fire on idle to keep the fire lit until the t'stat switches the feeder on steady to satisfy a heat call...then after a heat call timer resumes maintaining the idle fire again.

Your Carpet style Reading tri-burner stoker plugs into the timer box.
Your convection room blower can plug in to the wall outlet, it has separate controls inside the stove for cycling that blower.

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Post By: McGiever » Wed. Aug. 29, 2018 1:49 pm

Then your Reading TriBurner has been modified from the factory design...and that is NOT a bad thing at all.

So...I'd say, try it both ways...into timer and into wall outlet. Settings would be quite different for each way.

I had a Reading TriBurner setup once with the added combustion blower and at idle it ran at reduced speed and then jumped to full speed whenever the timer/thermostat signaled.

Now I see Keystoker has adopted this same technique on their smaller stokers.

With full time full speed combustion blower speed too much heat/fuel is wasted up the chimney at low idle.
Reducing the combustion blower speed still keeps the fire alive at idle and that is the goal for most of the time. Sometimes a higher idle can be a good thing, like when it is seriously cold outdoors. :)

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Post By: Zromonovich » Thu. Aug. 30, 2018 5:32 pm

McGiever wrote:
Wed. Aug. 29, 2018 1:49 pm
Then your Reading TriBurner has been modified from the factory design...and that is NOT a bad thing at all.

So...I'd say, try it both ways...into timer and into wall outlet. Settings would be quite different for each way.

I had a Reading TriBurner setup once with the added combustion blower and at idle it ran at reduced speed and then jumped to full speed whenever the timer/thermostat signaled.

Now I see Keystoker has adopted this same technique on their smaller stokers.

With full time full speed combustion blower speed too much heat/fuel is wasted up the chimney at low idle.
Reducing the combustion blower speed still keeps the fire alive at idle and that is the goal for most of the time. Sometimes a higher idle can be a good thing, like when it is seriously cold outdoors. :)
I’m going to try posting pictures of the setup. Let’s see if this works.
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Post By: McGiever » Thu. Aug. 30, 2018 11:33 pm

Worked for my viewing.

Yup, that combustion blower is added after stock blower wheel was removed.

It just comes down to if you are content to run the combustion fan at one speed....that being full speed.

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