PA ... Proposal to require carbon credits for power plants

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Post by BigBarney » Tue. Mar. 19, 2024 11:20 am

This should not be on just power plants , should be on ALL carbon

emmisions... Every use of carbon taxed on use...

https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/poconos-coal/state ... e4df5.html

All fuels liquid,gaseous,and solids...Electric would be taxed on the type

of fuel used for production... Solar and wind 0 tax because the fuel is free

of carbon and pollution... Tax the use of carbon in manufacture ...

There should be no exceptions...

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Post by warminmn » Tue. Mar. 19, 2024 11:26 am

Why type such garbage on a coal site?

Besides that we are taxed enough.

 
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Post by Richard S. » Tue. Mar. 19, 2024 11:35 am

BigBarney wrote:
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This should not be on just power plants , should be on ALL carbon
As I mentioned in the other topic Barney. Make a choice, either the products you advocate for can compete or they need legislation like this to make them competitive. You can't have it both ways.


 
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Post by Richard S. » Tue. Mar. 19, 2024 11:48 am

warminmn wrote:
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Besides that we are taxed enough.
This is the game plan, you impose as many regulations as you can on fossil fuels driving it's cost up. You mandate and subsidize the renewable product. Last but not least is the carbon credit scheme. The renewable energy product generates credits and the competing needs to be buy them.

Once the cost of the fossil fuel production rises to the same as renewable you declare victory. Never mind the fact power bills are two or three times what they need to be.

 
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Post by BigBarney » Tue. Mar. 19, 2024 11:51 am

Richard As an example...

This is a way to make things compliant ...

If you build vehicles that do not comply you buy credits

from producers which have earned credits for their

production of over compliant vehicles...

Its a way to even the field not to penalize anyone...

If your plant produces less pollution you should be

rewarded and the offender should pay...

This may not matter much with fossil fuel because it

will be relagated to the sidelines due to a too costly

product...

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Post by nut » Tue. Mar. 19, 2024 11:59 am

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the proposal to eliminate income taxes in favor of carbon tax? Not in this Pa proposal but at the federal level?


 
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Post by Richard S. » Tue. Mar. 19, 2024 12:17 pm

BigBarney wrote:
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Richard As an example...
Sorry but you don't need to explain to me how it works. I can give you the history of it starting with the credits implemented under the Clean Air Act of 1990, In that case it was sulfur dioxide and particulate matter. This worked well because they built scrubbers and switched to lower sulfur coal from the midwest to come into compliance. Relatively small expense for a big benefit.

This is completely different with CO2 because you can't eliminate the CO2. The only thing it does is add expense. If the renewables were competitive there is no reason for carbon credits. Instead you increase the cost of the fossil fuels through carbon credits. The one and only purpose is to make renewables look good on paper.

 
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Post by nut » Tue. Mar. 19, 2024 12:24 pm

Again it depends on if you believe in man made global warming.

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