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Post by Lightning » Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 10:06 am

Yep... keep right on truckin partner :no1:

My neighbor recently had 500 gallons delivered at the tune of $1750. I told her that the same amount of coal heat (2.75 tons) would cost $651.... and even told her that if she picked up a second hand Axeman that I'd install it... and her ROI would be around 2 years at most... not interested.

Feel free to post your neighbor's fuel trucks here :lol:

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Post by Holdencoal » Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 10:46 am

This seems within reason for oil. It’s crazy out there.

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Post by freetown fred » Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 10:48 am

Ya can lead a horse to water Lee. Hopefully she'll might take your offer. :) Don't forget--"supply & demand"

 
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Post by Rob R. » Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 10:48 am

You can lead them to water, but you can't make them drink. I hear people complaining about their heating bills and ask them what they have done to reduce it? Usually the answer is nothing, except complain. Some people install pellet stoves or wood stoves, and that's fine - but the cheapest BTUs are the ones you don't need to buy.

I totally understand that when you're stretching your dollars trying to pay the fuel bill, it is not a good time to try to make home improvements and reduce the heating load. But there are a lot of things you can do that don't cost a lot of money.

Sealing up drafts, blown-in insulation in the attic, spray foam kit for rim joist, etc.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 10:51 am

Damn Rob--all them thar options would cost about the price of a good used stove!!! LOL

 
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Post by Rob R. » Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 11:00 am

freetown fred wrote:
Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 10:51 am
Damn Rob--all them thar options would cost about the price of a good used stove!!! LOL
Fred, that point is not lost on me. A lot of houses do not have a usable chimney, and not everyone is comfortable burning coal or wood...and even if you do have a chimney and have no objections to solid fuel, it is a lot smaller job if the house doesn't heat like a corn crib.

You can do a lot of air sealing with a few cans of spray foam, which is $8 per can. Blown-in insulation is about $10 per bale, and some places will let you borrow the machine to blow it in. Some places also have cost sharing programs for this sort of thing.

 
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Post by Lightning » Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 11:05 am

Rob R. wrote:
Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 11:00 am
You can do a lot of air sealing with a few cans of spray foam, which is $8 per can. Blown-in insulation is about $10 per bale, and some places will let you borrow the machine to blow it in. Some places also have cost sharing programs for this sort of thing.
Amen to that Rob.. most people don't realize that cold air infiltration is usually the number one villain for big heating bills.


 
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Post by freetown fred » Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 11:20 am

I remember putting 4" styrofoam between the support trees (no branches) LOL in the basement & spray foaming the edges & sill--what a difference!!!! :) PS--"council on the ageing" helped a lot with that venture. Other then fallin apart as we get older--that was a good deal!! Double LOL

 
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Post by Lightning » Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 11:26 am

I used to get the shrink wrap plastic window kits with the double sided tape and seal every window in the house. Then we replaced all the windows so I don't do that anymore. But I bet it would still help to some degree.

 
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Post by warminmn » Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 11:28 am

I quit even attempting to convert people here. Its me and the Amish burning it, maybe a few stokers somewhere I dont know about. Black rocks have been gone since the 1970s here and that was soft coal hauled on trains. We have cheaper propane than most other states so coals often not much cheaper. But they'll cut wood until they break their backs to save money, lol

 
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Post by rberq » Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 11:31 am

Lightning wrote:
Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 11:05 am
most people don't realize that cold air infiltration is usually the number one villain for big heating bills.
The north room of my cellar (where the water pressure tank sits!) regularly froze up when outside temps dropped to minus 20. I couldn't figure it out, and my usual practice was to put my drop light under the pump switch to keep it working. One day when the sun was just right I saw a spot of daylight behind an electric panel. Turns out some turkey 75 years ago knocked out a couple foundation bricks to run a wire out under the porch. I wriggled in and squirted some spray foam in the hole, two minutes work and problem solved.

 
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Post by Rob R. » Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 11:40 am

freetown fred wrote:
Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 11:20 am
I remember putting 4" styrofoam between the support trees (no branches) LOL in the basement & spray foaming the edges & sill--what a difference!!!! :) PS--"council on the ageing" helped a lot with that venture. Other then fallin apart as we get older--that was a good deal!! Double LOL
That is the stuff I am talking about. Good deal!

 
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Post by Lightning » Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 4:41 pm

Lightning wrote:
Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 10:06 am
Feel free to post your neighbor's fuel trucks here
I suppose this isn't very nice of me but maybe its just a little bit fun lol
warminmn wrote:
Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 11:28 am
I quit even attempting to convert people here.
I hear ya brother.. For me and many others here on the coal forum its a little more than just the dollars saved. There's a geek like influence that enjoys the fascination of burning the black rocks and tending to the stoves or machines that harvest their heating bounty :)

 
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Post by freetown fred » Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 5:07 pm

Geek-like??????????????? :o :roll:

 
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Post by Lightning » Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 5:23 pm

freetown fred wrote:
Wed. Dec. 22, 2021 5:07 pm
Geek-like??????????????? :o :roll:
Well yeah.. maybe I speak for myself then ;)


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