PA Coal future?

 
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Post by ShawnTRD » Sun. Jan. 24, 2021 7:54 pm

What is your option on the near and far future for coal coming out of PA? Here in NY we get our coal from PA. I've only been buring for 5 years and haven't seen any problems with getting rice coal but NY shut down one coal power planet already. From what I understand the coal I'm burning is kind of a byproduct of the bigger stuff. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm just hoping I can burn coal for another 15 years.


 
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Post by Lightning » Sun. Jan. 24, 2021 7:57 pm

ShawnTRD wrote:
Sun. Jan. 24, 2021 7:54 pm
but NY shut down one coal power planet already.
Power plants use bituminous. Us, being a tiny niche in the anthracite market, will hopefully be overlooked by the gooberment.

 
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Post by ShawnTRD » Sun. Jan. 24, 2021 8:27 pm

Lightning wrote:
Sun. Jan. 24, 2021 7:57 pm
Power plants use bituminous. Us, being a tiny niche in the anthracite market, will hopefully be overlooked by the gooberment.
:yes:

 
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Post by freetown fred » Sun. Jan. 24, 2021 8:57 pm

Yep, not to panic S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

 
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Post by lincolnmania » Sun. Jan. 24, 2021 11:00 pm

anthracite coal is mostly used for home heating.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Mon. Jan. 25, 2021 8:04 am

Even Bit plants are stating they plan to remain for at least another decade.

 
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Post by swyman » Mon. Jan. 25, 2021 9:36 am

Guess I should try to stock up more. As long as I'm breathing I want to be burning coal! I started burning when Obama was in office and the prices were actually cheaper. Do you guys think with the Dems back in office and we all know know it will effect production, that we will see declining prices in the future?


 
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Post by Rob R. » Mon. Jan. 25, 2021 10:33 am

swyman wrote:
Mon. Jan. 25, 2021 9:36 am
Guess I should try to stock up more. As long as I'm breathing I want to be burning coal! I started burning when Obama was in office and the prices were actually cheaper. Do you guys think with the Dems back in office and we all know know it will effect production, that we will see declining prices in the future?
The price of coal goes down when there is a slump in demand, and/or when the price of diesel goes down significantly. Since the new administration has been very clear about their intent to drive up the cost of fossil fuel, I would not expect the price of coal to come down.

 
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Post by Holdencoal » Mon. Jan. 25, 2021 10:51 am

freetown fred wrote:
Mon. Jan. 25, 2021 8:04 am
Even Bit plants are stating they plan to remain for at least another decade.
Unless your like the owner of the Somerset plant in Mass/RI and spend a few cool million on plant upgrades to meet the clean air act only to do this a couple of years later.



Down come the brand new cooling towers.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.heraldnews.com/a ... ate=ampart

 
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Post by warminmn » Mon. Jan. 25, 2021 11:23 am

Are any anthracite mines on federal land? Or should I say planned mines? The new executive order is preventing new mines from opening on fed lands, but existing ones can continue. If there is demand they will keep mining ant.

They (govt, car makers) are going to force electric cars onto us and shove windmills and solar into the ground from coast to coast to power the damned things. Im sure there will be a slow decline in coal mines, mostly bit, but its not going to disappear overnight.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Mon. Jan. 25, 2021 11:57 am

W, they already tried shovin wind & solar on us large scale & to my knowledge all that happened was the companies takin our tax money & FAILING while gettin rich!!! :)

 
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Post by dbsuz05 » Mon. Jan. 25, 2021 12:50 pm

I have a natural gas line right in my front yard. I am not hooked up to it! Even though the sales guy came at least 3 times. He told me i was making a mistake because of low introductory pricing and I only had to pay half the cost of the line piped into my house. For 2 years everyone that got it said it was cheap. Now this year. I’m hearing OMG my gas bill doubled-tripled! Needless to say. I’ll be on the coal “chute” for a long time!

 
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Post by warminmn » Mon. Jan. 25, 2021 12:58 pm

I am going to be surrounded in 2 years by windmills, and a square mile of solar a mile from me this coming summer. NEVER would have happened without subsides. I was hoping it would just be solar but i guess not. So I may sound bitter about it, lol. I have a big bucket of smoky bit here and when they are downwind building them its going in the stove. Maybe part of a tire too. lol

dbs, in the long term you will be better off. Initial cost savings schemes usually backfire.

 
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Post by swyman » Mon. Jan. 25, 2021 1:23 pm

warminmn wrote:
Mon. Jan. 25, 2021 12:58 pm
I was hoping it would just be solar but i guess not.
We just fought in my area to turn down an 1600+ acre solar "farm" that would have surrounded my house. I am in the middle of farm country and it's really rich ground but it sure has stirred a lot of problems with everyone living here. Main fight was property rights of the land owners but the property owners that the panels were going on lost....so far. The solar companies were offering $1000/acre per year deal, one of the land owners had over 900 of those so you could see his and everyone else's point of being fighting mad......it was a 35 year deal. I don't have the answers but personally don't think we have the infrastructure to support the energy required to charge everyone's cars, they are struggling in my area now because of the number of people growing hydroponic marijuana since it is legal in Michigan to do so last few years.

 
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Post by CoalisCoolxWarm » Mon. Jan. 25, 2021 1:27 pm

Well, in my opinion, PA should not EXPORT ANY of its coal-fired electricity generation to any other state without a 5:1 ratio.

So if PA pays $.05 /kwh, interstate should pay $.25 /kwh.

Let the coal haters learn WHO is actually in-charge in PA.


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