Winter Holding Fast - February 2018

 
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Post by freetown fred » Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 10:26 am

Whoops--double post
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Post by freetown fred » Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 10:27 am

Nope, that was a 2065. Ended up giving that away to a kid that wanted to rebuild the engine.One of the lobes were wore. I've always been pro CUB till MTD bought them out but have always kept an eye out for an older WH.
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Is that the tractor that you repaired the engine & then it broke ? Is that the one you traded on the Wheel Horse ?

 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 10:42 am

freetown fred wrote:
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Nope, that was a 2065. Ended up giving that away to a kid that wanted to rebuild the engine.One of the lobes were wore.
I was wondering what happened with that tractor, now i know. :)
You posted earlier that the Wheel Horse is way solider than the Cub Cadet 2084...
That is an unbelievable statement considering the Wheel Horse is belt driven with just angle iron frame vs shaft drive & a frame nearly like a pickup frame on the 2084.The 2 tractors are in 2 far different classes to even attempt to compare them. Like saying a Farmall Cub is a better tractor than a Ford 9N is.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 10:49 am

Just my thoughts over-all.

 
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Post by k-2 » Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 10:58 am

How are the John Deere Lawn Tractors at Home depot ,i hear mixed reviews on em . I like the bigger ones from the dealer but that may be overkill for what i need to do.

 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 11:11 am

k-2 wrote:
Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 10:58 am
How are the John Deere Lawn Tractors at Home depot ,i hear mixed reviews on em . I like the bigger ones from the dealer but that may be overkill for what i need to do.
If you are wanting to mow your fairly level lawn,they would be ok.Plowing or blowing snow ???? Buy something bigger & better.
John Deere is recalling 25,000 of the box store junk tractors... tranny issues .. big surprise... plastic tranny housing on a tractor :what:

 
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Post by k-2 » Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 11:26 am

windyhill4.2 wrote:
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. tranny issues .. big surprise... plastic tranny housing on a tractor :what:
Plastic tranny housing YIKES :o :o :o :o


 
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Post by k-2 » Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 11:30 am

Im probably better off with a good used one of the larger dealer only models.Iv been looking but whats available is either very old and well used or almost the price of new. Cant see buying a half worn out setup for 70% of new price. I wonder how that 3 cy diesel is for starting in the cold.

 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 11:49 am

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Im probably better off with a good used one of the larger dealer only models.Iv been looking but whats available is either very old and well used or almost the price of new. Cant see buying a half worn out setup for 70% of new price. I wonder how that 3 cy diesel is for starting in the cold.
Do you mow a few acres & use the tractor for lots of other things too that you are considering a diesel ?

 
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Post by k-2 » Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 12:42 pm

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Do you mow a few acres & use the tractor for lots of other things too that you are considering a diesel ?
About an acre and i need something for snow removal for a block long commercial building. Once you get into the bigger John deere from the dealer most are diesels (from what i can see) Like a 1023 or a 1025 model.
Perhaps the dealers have smaller gas models that are higher quality than the HD models ,ill be checking them out in the spring.

 
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Post by k-2 » Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 12:44 pm

Dont really need a loader or backhoe that often so i just rent one when i do. So its just something dependable and reliable for mowing and a snow blade.

 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 2:31 pm

1 acre is hardly enough to justify using a heavier tractor.... but... that amount of snow removal.... :annoyed:
JD 445 gas,the 455 is diesel, these 2 tractors are HEAVY duty,could use a snow plow or snow blower or front end loader. 1 of these in good shape with just a deck on it would likely run around $4-$5 k. Then the newer X-series.. x575,x725.. these are also heavy duty & offer 4 x4 ,are capable of many attachments ,not familiar with there going $ rate on them.
All of the above mentioned units should be available in good shape for far less than a new tractor.

 
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Post by k-2 » Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 2:50 pm

The snow removal is just the sidewalk so i only need a 4ft blade. And i dont have to remove it just clear a path. Was happy to do all this by hand when i was younger but just cant do it anymore that way. I do like quality tools so i dont mind paying more upfront for a good machine. Used to have Case equipment for these things when i had more land.

 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 2:53 pm

This is my 1997 MTD 800 series that bails me out of trouble especially when things get icy.It has gotten quite the workout this week between plowing the wet,icy snow & then hauling coal cinders on a big cart for me to spread by hand. The entire drive & parking area was a total sheet of thick ice/snow pack this am. I covered the entire 400' drive plus all the parking area with coal cinders,which in combination with the sun have really reduced the ice here today.
I don't even attempt to do the job with my F250 SD when it is icy,that is what the chains on the tractor are for.

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Post by titleist1 » Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 2:55 pm

k-2 wrote:
Thu. Feb. 08, 2018 11:30 am
Im probably better off with a good used one of the larger dealer only models.Iv been looking but whats available is either very old and well used or almost the price of new. Cant see buying a half worn out setup for 70% of new price. I wonder how that 3 cy diesel is for starting in the cold.
I have two vintage JD's, a 332 and a 430 both 3 cyl diesels. I use the 332 for mowing and other thatching / spreading lawn work or pull cart work. The 332 doesn't get used in real cold weather, it doesn't have a block heater in it. I have a loader on the 430 for coal handling and snow removal and other wheel barrow activities that i don't use the wheel barrow for anymore! :yes:

I have a block heater in the 430, it is stored in a detached pole barn. I plug in the block heater about 1/2 hour before i want to use it and if it is single digits outside I take the intake manifold hose off and aim a heat gun at it. It starts with no problem when I do that. For temps in the 30's i just use the glow plugs. I also keep a battery tender on both machines so the batteries are strong.

There are gas versions of each of these...the 322 and the 420 if you don't want a diesel. I think if you go with an older tractor like these you must like to tinker with them or you will not like them. The parts for them are still readily available through boneyards or dealers.

I have always found a lot of tractors listed on CL in the spring and right around fathers day as new units are bought to replace ones that don't start after sitting all winter or Dad gets an upgrade.


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