Seems like the best way to clean up that pile is run it through a co-gen plant.franpipeman wrote: ↑Wed. Apr. 11, 2018 7:58 amThis is just the latest of these efforts they are endless
https://stateimpact.npr.org/pennsylvania/2018/03/ ... e-cleanup/
Coal Power Plants
- Rob R.
- Site Moderator
- Posts: 18004
- Joined: Fri. Dec. 28, 2007 4:26 pm
- Location: Chazy, NY
- Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby Jr
- franpipeman
- Member
- Posts: 690
- Joined: Fri. Jan. 11, 2008 4:27 pm
- Location: Wernersville pa
- Stoker Coal Boiler: efm 520 stoker fitzgibbons pressure vessel
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: harman, russo
- Coal Size/Type: rice
- Other Heating: alpine propane condensing boiler radiant floor
Absolutely, but they are best done when the plant is right next to the culm pile and the pile is right next to transmission line and there needs to be a use for the steam and electric. Theses electric plants take a little more effort than others but they exist.
- franpipeman
- Member
- Posts: 690
- Joined: Fri. Jan. 11, 2008 4:27 pm
- Location: Wernersville pa
- Stoker Coal Boiler: efm 520 stoker fitzgibbons pressure vessel
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: harman, russo
- Coal Size/Type: rice
- Other Heating: alpine propane condensing boiler radiant floor
I wonder what can be done with fracking waste liquid..... that is what Pa is trying to prevent new culm pile but made of fracking liquids
More coal discussion from Bloomberg News and Murray Energy...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-1 ... els-future
Murray wants to buy power plants cheap and run with his steam coal .
They have to be close to the mines to lighten transport costs .
BigBarney
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-1 ... els-future
Murray wants to buy power plants cheap and run with his steam coal .
They have to be close to the mines to lighten transport costs .
BigBarney
More subsidies to unprofitable power producers and some
common sense to retire the fleet and replace with 0 fuel .
https://www.utilitydive.com
BigBarney
common sense to retire the fleet and replace with 0 fuel .
https://www.utilitydive.com
BigBarney
- franpipeman
- Member
- Posts: 690
- Joined: Fri. Jan. 11, 2008 4:27 pm
- Location: Wernersville pa
- Stoker Coal Boiler: efm 520 stoker fitzgibbons pressure vessel
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: harman, russo
- Coal Size/Type: rice
- Other Heating: alpine propane condensing boiler radiant floor
https://newsinteractive.post-gazette.com/blog/coa ... er-plants/
an extensive article about coal power plants
an extensive article about coal power plants
- franpipeman
- Member
- Posts: 690
- Joined: Fri. Jan. 11, 2008 4:27 pm
- Location: Wernersville pa
- Stoker Coal Boiler: efm 520 stoker fitzgibbons pressure vessel
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: harman, russo
- Coal Size/Type: rice
- Other Heating: alpine propane condensing boiler radiant floor
https://www.asme.org/about-asme/who-we-are/engine ... ion-unit-1
this is one of the power plants that was shut down , located Near chester pa. During my steamfitter apprenticeship this plant was discussed as the pipe walsl were inches thick. It status supercritical definitions that the pressure it operated at allowed the steam to have the same density as the water at heat temperature and pressure. Shut down. no longer operating
this is one of the power plants that was shut down , located Near chester pa. During my steamfitter apprenticeship this plant was discussed as the pipe walsl were inches thick. It status supercritical definitions that the pressure it operated at allowed the steam to have the same density as the water at heat temperature and pressure. Shut down. no longer operating
- McGiever
- Member
- Posts: 10130
- Joined: Sun. May. 02, 2010 11:26 pm
- Location: Junction of PA-OH-WV
- Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
- Hand Fed Coal Boiler: BUCKET A DAY water heater
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Warm Morning 414A
- Coal Size/Type: PEA,NUT,STOVE /ANTHRACITE
- Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump and some Solar
The old coal power plants converted recently to NG are small output units that were considered big back many decades ago when electrcity demand was very small.
A NG pipe today has to be very large coming in to full sized coal plants to be able to replace the Mega/Giga Watt equivilant that the train and barge loads of coal once delivered and stock piled on site did. And no hiccups either.
A NG pipe today has to be very large coming in to full sized coal plants to be able to replace the Mega/Giga Watt equivilant that the train and barge loads of coal once delivered and stock piled on site did. And no hiccups either.
- joethemechanic
- Member
- Posts: 369
- Joined: Sat. May. 23, 2015 12:26 pm
Not to worry. AOC has it all figured out. Wind and solar everywhere, huge hydro in Kansas, high speed rail, electric cars and trucks, and every building being rebuilt. A party every day with cake, ice cream, puppies, kittens, and free pony rides. Mean grumpy people will be taken away, and life will be a big long ride on the The Good Ship Lollypop.