welder/generator, anybody using ?

 
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Post by Dave 1234 » Thu. Jan. 04, 2018 9:12 pm

Have any of you guys used a welder generator for a back-up generator ? I was always able to get my power back on. But I retired from my old line job and now I'm away for storm work every time it gets nasty out. I need a good, long run diesel generator with elec start and super reliable.

Looking at a miller 325 , its diesel , 3 cyl kubota , fuel consumption around 1 gal. per hr.

Anybody try it already ?

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Post by grumpy » Thu. Jan. 04, 2018 9:15 pm

Why not a regular generator, like a Perkins or Kubota ? How many KW do you need and what do you want to spend?

 
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Post by Dave 1234 » Thu. Jan. 04, 2018 9:36 pm

grumpy wrote:
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Why not a regular generator, like a Perkins or Kubota ? How many KW do you need and what do you want to spend?
I really don't need more than 10 kw. And I figured the welder part, being portable would come in handy on the farm at times.

Hate to get over the 4 / 5 grand mark.

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Post by Rob R. » Fri. Jan. 05, 2018 5:57 am

My other has one. It works well enough, but the problem is that it is usually on a pallet in the shop when the power goes out, and you have to be there to move it, start it, etc.

Dad bit the bullet and had a Generac Guardian put in. 500 gallon propane tank, he doesn't even get out of bed if the power goes out, generator comes on automatically. You can buy an 11kw unit with a 200 amp transfer switch for about $3200.

 
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Post by Dave 1234 » Fri. Jan. 05, 2018 8:48 am

Rob R. wrote:
Fri. Jan. 05, 2018 5:57 am
My other has one. It works well enough, but the problem is that it is usually on a pallet in the shop when the power goes out, and you have to be there to move it, start it, etc.

Dad bit the bullet and had a Generac Guardian put in. 500 gallon propane tank, he doesn't even get out of bed if the power goes out, generator comes on automatically. You can buy an 11kw unit with a 200 amp transfer switch for about $3200.
Rob, gotta say , I like your dads way !

I have needed a good and powerful welder for the heavy equipment for years. Now my stuff that breaks is too big and expensive to bring back to the shop. So this was an attempt at killing two birds with one stone.

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Fri. Jan. 05, 2018 9:22 am

I am purchasing a PTO generator for the new tractor, portable, big power, doesn’t give me another engine to maintain, can hook it up in about 10 minutes.

 
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Post by Rob R. » Fri. Jan. 05, 2018 9:25 am

10 minutes once you are home.


 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Fri. Jan. 05, 2018 9:27 am

Grandpa lives next door 👍

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Fri. Jan. 05, 2018 9:29 am

I could wire it up so that it’ll start when I loose power lol but that’s deeper than I need to be!

 
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Post by coalnewbie » Fri. Jan. 05, 2018 9:47 am

10 minutes once you are home.
Assuming the tractor starts. Waste of money for this application but good for ag operations in the field. In fact most residential generators are a waste of time.

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Fri. Jan. 05, 2018 9:56 am

Hahaha why on earth wouldn’t my tractor start??

 
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Post by hotblast1357 » Fri. Jan. 05, 2018 10:01 am

coalnewbie wrote:
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In fact most residential generators are a waste of time.
Having no power for 5 days when temps are -20 at night make a 1500 dollar generator worth every penny!

 
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Post by Dave 1234 » Fri. Jan. 05, 2018 11:08 am

Rob R. wrote:
Fri. Jan. 05, 2018 9:25 am
10 minutes once you are home.
Yup ! That's the issue. It really needs to be automatic , big picture, I can't be around when the power goes out.

 
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Post by BigBarney » Fri. Jan. 05, 2018 11:45 am

New technology will be backup power supply for houses that are like the Tesla powerwall where you always have

a fully charged battery ready to replace your power when needed. No fuel needed and always ready.

An electric car could also be your backup with its large battery storage.

No engine to start and instant response , ideal solution.


https://cleantechnica.com/2017/12/27/tesla-grid-s ... er-outage/



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Post by coalnewbie » Fri. Jan. 05, 2018 11:47 am

BB, there you have gone and done it, I cracked a rib.


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