The Deep Freeze Continues - Jan 2018

k-2 · Post by **k-2** » Tue. Jan. 16, 2018 4:18 pm

Being any kind of window even the best window, leaks heat worse than the worst wall, then add to that you have got a window well around it in the ceiling. For folks that are not concerned about the heat loss it dont matter, no problem. But if you are ,you really cant avoid it. Does the snow melt that falls on it ,if it does its leaking heat. Iv known peole that went to the added expense of having them taken out. I love windows, lots of em ,but perhps the roof is not the best place for em.

titleist1 · Post by **titleist1** » Tue. Jan. 16, 2018 4:26 pm

k-2 wrote: ↑
Tue. Jan. 16, 2018 4:18 pm
Being any kind of window even the best window, leaks heat worse than the worst wall, then add to that you have got a window well around it in the ceiling. For folks that are not concerned about the heat loss it dont matter, no problem. But if you are ,you really cant avoid it. Does the snow melt that falls on it ,if it does its leaking heat. Iv known peole that went to the added expense of having them taken out. I love windows, lots of em ,but perhps the roof is not the best place for em.

Now that you mention that little test, I noticed this morning that the dusting of flakes we got last night had not melted off them by 8am. The sun isn't hitting the roof by then either to help melt it. You are right though, it must be warmer on those panes than the surrounding roof with 10" of insulation between the drywall and roof sheathing. My play project for tonight is to get the thermal out and get a pic to post on here!

k-2 · Post by **k-2** » Tue. Jan. 16, 2018 4:34 pm

Sounds like its not leaking enough to worry about ,but im sure your thermal camera will pick up any difference.

coalnewbie · Post by **coalnewbie** » Tue. Jan. 16, 2018 4:40 pm

My play project for tonight is to get the thermal out and get a pic to post on here!

I'm waiting - there is nothing on the TV. Sun tunnels look fine on that type of camera. In fact on the kitchen table upstairs I got 90* from radiated heat AND a ton of light.

lsayre · Post by **lsayre** » Tue. Jan. 16, 2018 5:10 pm

Heading for -3 F. here tonight.

Post by **Rob R.** » Tue. Jan. 16, 2018 8:37 pm

lsayre wrote: ↑
Tue. Jan. 16, 2018 5:10 pm
Heading for -3 F. here tonight.

Its your turn.

k-2 · Post by **k-2** » Wed. Jan. 17, 2018 12:17 pm

Every year when the deep freeze hits,i notice all the places where my insulation is sorely lacking. Still have 2 walls with none at all in. And a few walls with not much in. Being i do this in other homes ,theirs no excuse to keep putting it off other than too busy working. Probably waste a ton of coal a year to keep putting it off.

Post by **Lightning** » Wed. Jan. 17, 2018 12:44 pm

I hear ya, I have the same issue. I feel cold spots in various places, like on my feet while standing at the kitchen sink. It must be coming in thru the foundation somewhere then coming up thru a hole.

k-2 · Post by **k-2** » Wed. Jan. 17, 2018 7:18 pm

Have to prioritize , i know i could use less fuel but other high dollar issues need my attention and there is only 1 of me. The deep freeze is back (for 2 days anyway) Sure looks good the next 10 after that!

Post by **Lightning** » Wed. Jan. 17, 2018 7:30 pm

I just heard on the buffalo news that this first half of winter is the coldest on record in the last 22 years. No wonder I'm burning so much coal lol.

loxety · Post by **loxety** » Fri. Jan. 19, 2018 12:52 pm

A few months ago my wife and I finally put cellulose insulation in the walls of our 118 year old two story 1700sqft house. We placed around R-60 of fiberglass bats in the attic about 8 years ago (there was nothing). Last heating season we would use about 20lbs on the shoulders and 50lbs per day in the dead of winter. This season our coal consumption has gone down about 60% to 15Lbs on the shoulders and 30lbs in the dead of winter. Insulating the walls was around $250 DYI. Next step for us will be to add insulation under the floors on the ground level and then maybe change out all the 14 windows.

windyhill4.2 · Post by **windyhill4.2** » Fri. Jan. 19, 2018 1:04 pm

The deep freeze is too deep to let the temps warm up much.It got up to 30* yesterday from a morning low of 10*..... up to 38* currently from 6* this morning.The prediction was for 41* here today,now i see they have lowered that to 39* for the high.
Normal low for today is 20*,normal high is 36*.

lsayre · Post by **lsayre** » Fri. Jan. 19, 2018 1:06 pm

loxety wrote: ↑
Fri. Jan. 19, 2018 12:52 pm
A few months ago my wife and I finally put cellulose insulation in the walls of our 118 year old two story 1700sqft house. We placed around R-60 of fiberglass bats in the attic about 8 years ago (there was nothing). Last heating season we would use about 20lbs on the shoulders and 50lbs per day in the dead of winter. This season our coal consumption has gone down about 60% to 15Lbs on the shoulders and 30lbs in the dead of winter. Insulating the walls was around $250 DYI. Next step for us will be to add insulation under the floors on the ground level and then maybe change out all the 14 windows.

Wow, I need to thing about improving my homes insulation.

windyhill4.2 · Post by **windyhill4.2** » Fri. Jan. 19, 2018 1:15 pm

lsayre wrote: ↑
Fri. Jan. 19, 2018 1:06 pm
Wow, I need to thing about improving my homes insulation.

There is a huge difference going from nothing to lots vs going from decent to lots.

loxety · Post by **loxety** » Fri. Jan. 19, 2018 1:23 pm

lsayre wrote: ↑
Fri. Jan. 19, 2018 1:06 pm
Wow, I need to thing about improving my homes insulation.

Foam would be the way to go but cellulose was less up front cost and low risk. We live in a historic district so they wont go for us modifying the external look of the building otherwise I'd look at adding an external Mooney wall (https://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/Conservatio ... eyWall.htm). An internal Mooney wall could work to add another R-16-21 if I can get it past the wife