Penn Keystone Coal Co
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The reason why Superior coal will only sell a few tons to you is the breaker is shut down for 2 to 3 more weeks for Repairsefo141 wrote:I tried Superior 140 they would not sell me more than a few tons, UAE 130 3-5 tons, Summit 140 will sell a full load but the trucking price was 2000+ for 250 miles (one way) Lenig 130, Have not checked the price with ther recomened trucker yet. Penn Keystone Broker 135+ 35 per ton trucking big price diff. on trucking. If anyone knows of good coal at 170 ton delivered Please let me know. Thanks Ed
There for they can not Make any more coal the rice stockpile is low if you would wait for a few more weeks you will
beable to buy a truckload UAE does not mine as much in the summer months so there stockpile is low to Summit Anthracite has lots of coal Now if you do the math for fuel cost Diesel fule down here is 4.89.9 per gallon so 4.89.9 x 250 =
1224.75 one way Now if that trucker does not have a back haul who do you think will have to Pay for the fuel for the way home 4.89.9 x 500 = 2449.50 As for Penn keystone broker do you know how Much they are Paying for a ton of coal I can
tell you it is not a 135.00 a ton you can still buy coal down here from other breakers that do not have very good Qaulity
coal for 100.00 to 120.00 a ton so lets say the bought it at 100 a ton they would be making 35.00 on each ton Plus 35.00 per ton for delivery so now that is 70 Per ton they are making and you do not know where they are getting the coal from
Remember they are a Broker not a coal breaker or mine owner they buy from who ever gives them the best Price per ton they still have to Pay for time and fuel the same as any other trucker Most trucking companies charge 55.00 to 70.00 per ton for delivery depending on how many miles they have to go Some companies set up back hauls so you will only Pay one way other's that do not have a back haul will charge you for both ways
The fuel will be somewhat cheaper, on a round trip (loaded only one way) with a tri-axle or semi truck you can expect an average 3-5 miles per gallon so it's not $4.89 a mile although I've seen some of the real old coal trucks they might cost $15 per mile
- Richard S.
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Don't forget insurance $$$, registration $$$, tires $$$, maintenance $$$$$... running a truck is not cheap. The registration alone on my two small trucks was over $1k each year.
- LsFarm
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Hi efo,, clinkers are formed as the coal is burnt,, a hot fire causes the ash to fuse together to make a clinker... new unburnt coal won't have clinkers.. It may have some rocks, and black shale that looks like coal but won't burn...
Depending on the stoker, yes the roots and other junk could cause feeding problems... You can screen out a lot of this stuff by pouring your coal through a piece of 1/2" mesh screen.. this will catch the roots, chunks of wood, and oversize pieces..
Greg L..
Depending on the stoker, yes the roots and other junk could cause feeding problems... You can screen out a lot of this stuff by pouring your coal through a piece of 1/2" mesh screen.. this will catch the roots, chunks of wood, and oversize pieces..
Greg L..
I undestand how the clinkers form in a hand feed stove. Do the clinkers form in a keystoker? looks to me like a burn plate with air holes, coal burns across the plate and falls off as ash at the end. Would clinkers form on that plate?
- LsFarm
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Yes but rarely are the clinkers really hard and melted solid.. the clinkers are more like soft poorly packed snow balls. The clinkers are so soft that they don't survive being picked up in your hands..
With the keystoker,, the clinkers can bump up against the front or door of the stove and cause the ash to back up on the perforated grate... This only happens when the stove is making near it's max heat... forum member WNY has had this happen..his fix was to mix in about 50% buckwheat coal during the really cold weather,, the mix of slightly larger coal pieces seems to eliminate the pieces from adhering to each other.
Hope this helps..
Greg L.
With the keystoker,, the clinkers can bump up against the front or door of the stove and cause the ash to back up on the perforated grate... This only happens when the stove is making near it's max heat... forum member WNY has had this happen..his fix was to mix in about 50% buckwheat coal during the really cold weather,, the mix of slightly larger coal pieces seems to eliminate the pieces from adhering to each other.
Hope this helps..
Greg L.
- Freddy
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I just noticed this post... Greg, if the red thing in your second photo is a 55 gallon drum, that's a truly impressive clinker.
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I want the coal that burns and drops 1 dollar bills in the ash pan .LsFarm wrote:Hi efo,, clinkers are formed as the coal is burnt,, a hot fire causes the ash to fuse together to make a clinker... new unburnt coal won't have clinkers.. It may have some rocks, and black shale that looks like coal but won't burn...
Depending on the stoker, yes the roots and other junk could cause feeding problems... You can screen out a lot of this stuff by pouring your coal through a piece of 1/2" mesh screen.. this will catch the roots, chunks of wood, and oversize pieces..
Greg L..