How Did You Get Started Burning Coal

LehighanthraciteMatt wrote: ↑

Mon. Nov. 27, 2017 10:32 am

Agreed Fred seems many started for that reason..

Same here. My back thanks me for it everyday.

k-2 wrote: ↑

Mon. Nov. 27, 2017 10:46 am

Same here ,oil went to $4.50 Gallon in 2002 .That was the straw that broke the camels back. Rice coal was $80 a ton in 2002. $200 now but still a better deal ,and a local fuel. Buy american. ID rather give my heating dollars to my own neighbors here in central Pa. Than to people that hate us (middle east countries)and whose life mission is to murder us after first bankrupting us.

Great point, and well said, K-2. After all these years, never thought of it that way.

When I was growing up the neighbors to either side of me burned coal, but we had NG. When I moved to an all electric house the pain of paying to heat a home and DHW with electricity hit me right where it hurts, and I remembered how warm my my old neighbors houses were.

That, plus I heated the previous house we lived in exclusively with wood for several years, and I knew how much work that was. About 6 - 7 full cords a years worth of work, and I did it all with a chain saw, wedges, and a maul (couldn't afford a powered log splitter). By the time we moved to the all electric house I was too old for that. Plus with polycythemia vera (diagnosed just about when I discovered and signed up to this forum), too weak. Now I worry about getting too weak for coal.

lsayre wrote: ↑

Wed. Nov. 29, 2017 12:05 pm

. Plus with polycythemia vera (diagnosed just about when I discovered and signed up to this forum), too weak. Now I worry about getting too weak for coal.

I hear you there. The boomer generation is almost worn out but were not done yet. Im wearing a leg brace to walk and have reduced heart function from a heart attack ,but ill keep going as long as im able to ,until my last breath. I still use wood stoves in homes i rehab and coal at my home. Wood and coal burners are a special breed IMO. Good luck with your condition,perhaps the effort will give us a little exercise if nothing else.

It takes energy to get oil or gas out of the ground and refine it.

David

How many GALLONS of fuel get burned to get a cargo tanker of crude from the sand countries to the USA ??

Am I missin something--it don't take energy to get coal????

David... wrote: ↑

Wed. Nov. 29, 2017 2:32 pm

It takes energy to get oil or gas out of the ground and refine it.

David

It takes energy to get coal out of the ground.

David

I didn't take it as arguing. I also have no idea how much energy is used to get a particular fuel to my house. I would guess coal is cheaper to get out of the ground, but more expensive to get to my house.

David

Rob R. wrote: ↑

Wed. Nov. 29, 2017 2:30 pm

I have often wondered how many gallons of diesel it takes to get a ton of coal out of the ground. Kind of tough to tell how much oil I am really avoiding.

For the confused among us...
I responded to this,with the following..
How many GALLONS of fuel get burned to get a cargo tanker of crude from the sand countries to the USA ???

I was not arguing,as i have no idea,i was simply pointing out a fact... cargo tankers burn fuel to get that oil here.
We do need oil to fuel some things in our country.
I chose to burn wood & now coal ,so as to be less dependent on organized crime for my fuel.

How bout this, use the Alaskan pipeline, and the Keystone pipeline, (our own oil), and tell the sandy pits to keep their own oil, till we can better produce solar energy as a heat source. That should give us a couple thousand years of developmental time to perfect the method.

windyhill4.2 wrote: ↑

Wed. Nov. 29, 2017 2:58 pm

How many GALLONS of fuel get burned to get a cargo tanker of crude from the sand countries to the USA ??

Its about scale, the US uses about 10 supertankers worth of oil a day. Getting 2-3 million gallons here in one just doesnt cost that much. The only transport cheaper than a supertanker is a pipeline.