Poor Man's Alternative to Nickel Plating

 
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Post by warminmn » Tue. Jun. 09, 2015 7:42 am

NICE! Looking at the photos, I like this better than chrome. Please post back in a year as to how they have held up to the heat and coal ash.


 
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Post by Pauliewog » Tue. Jun. 09, 2015 10:26 am

SWPaDon wrote:
Pauliewog wrote:They were a lot brighter before the clear coat. You can see the surface rust forming just hours after polishing.
The bottom base and legs are the original Nickel.
The swing top lid, footrests, and front badges are polished cast iron.

Paulie
Do you wear gloves when polishing?

The reason I ask, is that when I reload my gun shells, if I don't wear rubber gloves when handling them the acid (is what I read somewhere) coming from my pores will corrode the brass and actually leave fingerprints.

EDIT: This happens with all metals I touch except stainless.
Yes, not as much on the nickel, but on the copper and brass, like you I found that out the hard way .

Paulie

 
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Post by Pauliewog » Tue. Jun. 09, 2015 10:30 am

windyhill4.2 wrote:
Sunny Boy wrote:Forget the plating, that looks far better with highlighting the depth of the relief - much more three dimensional looking. And it gives it a very nice antique patina.

Paul
I have to agree,i like this look far better than the "polished" look. Give your daughter credit for this good idea .
My daughter is big into crafts, and actually comes up with a lot of great ideas.

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Post by nealkas » Tue. Jun. 09, 2015 12:48 pm

2000 degrees is purt near yellow heat.
Unless your daughter talks you into firing pottery in your stove you should be okay. :)

If it works as advertised you should be good except for the odd nick or scratch.

Isn't electrolysis very nearly magical for saving parts and labor?

 
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Post by Pauliewog » Tue. Jun. 09, 2015 2:19 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:
Nice! Yes, polishing with a high speed buff and rouge will highlight it even more. White rouge is better on the steel. Cuts faster and It won't darken it as much the way red rouge can.

Red rouge (jeweler's rouge) is better for softer metals such as gold, silver, brass and copper.

And, if you go at it with rouge, don't forget to wash it good with a solvent like lacquer thinner. That's to get all the wax out of the pits and crevices, or the clear will blister as soon as the wax gets heated.

Paul
I have a few sticks of stainless steel rouge that I use with the hard buff pads and a light green rouge the plater gave me on a loose buff for finishing..

Years ago I bought a few different types from Eastwood. The problem is I don't remember what metals they were for, or where I hid them for safe keeping. :D

I use good old fashioned Brasso hand rubbed on the brass pieces relaxing and remembering how much I hated polishing my brass while in the Army

I didn't try lacquer thinner, I have been using acetone. Do you think the lacquer thinner works better?

Paulie

 
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Post by Pauliewog » Tue. Jun. 09, 2015 2:49 pm

Having a really great day today ! My wife and I helped start up a charity called "Angel Bus ". Today we took a 7 year child and his mom down to Janet Weiss Children's Hospital in Danville, Pa. for an appointment. Feeling good after doing a good deed, we decided to stop on the way home at a local Antique shop. I am looking for an old Victorian mantel for my Man Cave project.

Didn't find a mantel but ............ I found the perfect candidate for my Poor Man's Nickel Project !

A ......Merry Bride 244 Base Burner . ....

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Post by Pauliewog » Tue. Jun. 09, 2015 6:07 pm

OK ..... I got home and thought I would try something out. I have an Acme Carbon #12 apart for restoration and am waiting for some parts to be recast.

I have another Acme Carbon #12 parts stove that is pretty rusted up. I took apart one of the rusty footrests and went right to the wire wheel with one half only.

Then did a quick once over with the medium 3M sandblaster 9682 pad followed by the fine blue 3M pad.
Wiped it down with Acetone and gave it a coat of the 2000 degree clear.

Total time 45 minutes. Here are some pictures.

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Post by Pauliewog » Tue. Jun. 09, 2015 6:16 pm

The colors are just reflections from the room. It changes as I change the camera angle.
No buffing was done to remove scratches or swirls from the 3M pads.

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Post by SWPaDon » Tue. Jun. 09, 2015 6:23 pm

That looks nice.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Tue. Jun. 09, 2015 6:37 pm

Pauliewog wrote:
Sunny Boy wrote:
Nice! Yes, polishing with a high speed buff and rouge will highlight it even more. White rouge is better on the steel. Cuts faster and It won't darken it as much the way red rouge can.

Red rouge (jeweler's rouge) is better for softer metals such as gold, silver, brass and copper.

And, if you go at it with rouge, don't forget to wash it good with a solvent like lacquer thinner. That's to get all the wax out of the pits and crevices, or the clear will blister as soon as the wax gets heated.

Paul
I have a few sticks of stainless steel rouge that I use with the hard buff pads and a light green rouge the plater gave me on a loose buff for finishing..

Years ago I bought a few different types from Eastwood. The problem is I don't remember what metals they were for, or where I hid them for safe keeping. :D

I use good old fashioned Brasso hand rubbed on the brass pieces relaxing and remembering how much I hated polishing my brass while in the Army

Yeah, I still have my can of Brasso from 40 years ago. But I haven't used it since. With any luck, by now it's turned to concrete. :D

I didn't try lacquer thinner, I have been using acetone. Do you think the lacquer thinner works better?

They both will work. Just be careful because acetone is more easily absorbed through bare skin into your system.

Paul


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Post by Pauliewog » Tue. Jun. 09, 2015 11:43 pm

warminmn wrote:NICE! Looking at the photos, I like this better than chrome. Please post back in a year as to how they have held up to the heat and coal ash.
I plan to do some testing over the next few weeks. One of my customers runs his powder coat oven at 400 degrees, two shifts, six days a week. I will just hang the footrest I did today in the oven for a few weeks. If it still looks good I'll give it a few hours in the 1200 degree burn off oven.

The clear is rated for 2000 degrees so I'm hoping for the best.

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Post by Pauliewog » Wed. Jun. 10, 2015 12:07 am

nealkas wrote:2000 degrees is purt near yellow heat.

Unless your daughter talks you into firing pottery in your stove you should be okay. :)

If it works as advertised you should be good except for the odd nick or scratch.

Isn't electrolysis very nearly magical for saving parts and labor?
I'm thinking if the stove got that hot ......The finish would be the least of my worries, and as far as a few nicks and scratches .......I like a hundred year stove that has a bit of character.

:blowup:

M| other daughter has a kiln.....So I would hope she would fire it there rather than try to build up the heat by leaving the ash door wide open. :(

Electrolysis rust removal is just .......Amazing... I was thinking of putting electrodes in the hot tub so I could dip the whole stove before disassembly
I decided to keep that thought to myself. bop2

Paulie

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Wed. Jun. 10, 2015 6:15 am

Pauliewog wrote:
I'm thinking if the stove got that hot ......The finish would be the least of my worries, and as far as a few nicks and scratches .......I like a hundred year stove that has a bit of character.

:blowup:

M| other daughter has a kiln.....So I would hope she would fire it there rather than try to build up the heat by leaving the ash door wide open. :(

Electrolysis rust removal is just .......Amazing... I was thinking of putting electrodes in the hot tub so I could dip the whole stove before disassembly
I decided to keep that thought to myself. bop2

Paulie
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Post by nealkas » Wed. Jun. 10, 2015 7:11 am

Pauliewog wrote: I was thinking of putting electrodes in the hot tub so I could dip the whole stove before disassembly
I decided to keep that thought to myself. bop2

Paulie
Tell them it is a tanning aid. :P

 
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Post by Pauliewog » Wed. Jun. 10, 2015 10:29 am

SWPaDon wrote:
Here may be your electrolysis tank, Paulie: **Broken Link(S) Removed**
Don
I will tell you how small this world is ! Those totes belong to my customer. I placed them outside when I moved their warehouse :D

I have a little bigger tank in mind.

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