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Post Fri. Jan. 25, 2008 8:16 pm

After a few days burning this crap coal, I think I'm figuring the best way to handle it. With Blaschak I would shake down a bit (the coal bed would settle a bit ) & then poke a little to break up any bridges, then just add new coal.
With this new stuff, when I try to shake down a bit first, the coal bed doesn't budge & the shaker grates are just shaking down air! There is so much bridging that what I am doing now is get the fire freshened up ( like I always do with more air) give it just a couple of shakes & then go right to poking down from the top to break up the bridging & twist the tool a bit to break up clinkers. Seems to be working althougfh I do have to remain very careful not to push the Harman shaker handle to far as I can still feel some binding & am afraid of jams. The coal burns fine but let's see if I can tame the stuff!
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Post Fri. Jan. 25, 2008 8:36 pm

Further thoughts:

I've been burning this new crap exclusively for the last couple of days figuring I would just try to burn through it asap. I still have about 1/2 Ton of this stuff & another 1/2 ton of Blaschak left. Maybe I would be better off mixing the two types of coal together to soften (less bridging) the coal bed a bit??
Any thoughts? (I'm just winging it here)
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Post Sat. Jan. 26, 2008 6:21 pm

It certainly wouldn't hurt to try a 50/50 mix of the two coals. I've mixed just about anything that burns. Wood/bitum, Bitum/anthracite, wood/anthracite. I'm currently mixing two different coals in my AA boiler.

I'd try a mix for several days, and see what happens with the clinkers. bridging and ash.

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Post Sat. Jan. 26, 2008 7:53 pm

Just went and picked up 10 bags of Blaschak, will see how it burns and may be getting it for next year in bulk...
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Post Sat. Jan. 26, 2008 8:27 pm

LsFarm wrote:It certainly wouldn't hurt to try a 50/50 mix of the two coals. I've mixed just about anything that burns. Wood/bitum, Bitum/anthracite, wood/anthracite. I'm currently mixing two different coals in my AA boiler.

I'd try a mix for several days, and see what happens with the clinkers. bridging and ash.

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Trying it now (mixing) I'll post my results kin a few days
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Post Sat. Jan. 26, 2008 9:57 pm

hey sandman
their is a place in hanover were I get mine its called family pet and garden center on rt. 53 on the pembroke hanover line he sells kimmles wich is just a bagging company but it burns good he told me he has four ton of rice he has been sitting on so he might give you good price he is a friend of mine and his name is Jim as well :)
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Post Sun. Jan. 27, 2008 9:50 am

Wood'nCoal wrote:Did the piece that jammed the grates look like either of these?
NASTY COAL2.jpg
BADCOAL3.JPG
The first photo is strip-mined coal, nut size, from a supplier in Stroudsburg.
The second photo is strip-mined coal, stove size from a dealer in NJ, the dealer I bought coal from when I first got the stove. That coal jammed the grates.

I have found that my stove seems to digest pea size the best, I get the best burn from it. I'm currently burning the pea coal from the Stroudsburg yard. These hard metallic clinkers form from the impurities in the coal, they lie on top of the grates for a long time and form from the intense heat. Since the initial coal size is large they don't break up and drop during shaking. Since the pea is smaller to begin with, most of the bad stuff will drop during shaking.

I'm using pea size only now, I shake the coal bed thoroughly twice a day, more often during very cold weather. After shaking, I run a wire "poker" up through the holes in the grates anywhere I don't see bright orange light illuminating the bottom of the ash compartment. I wiggle the wire around until I break up the ash or clinker that's blocking the grate.

With nut size I would have to shake the fire a lot more, and fish the clinkers out through the loading door.

I'd mix the coal you have with the Blaschak, and stick to pea size.
I burn coal from the supplier in Stroudsburg. they sell Jeddo Highlands coal from the Hazelton area. it burns very well for me :D The only time I have clinker issues is When I start playing with bit. coal. I would rather remove stones and clinkers than pay 3.00 gal. for oil :P
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Post Tue. Feb. 05, 2008 4:10 pm

spc wrote:
sandman wrote:where are you getting it from now?
i need to find a closer place to get bulk rice.
right now the closest place I've found is in the western part of ma.
jim
If you are not far from RI, Cranston Coal has bagged Blaschak. I bought bulk $210 a ton back in November. I don't know if their bulk is Blaschak, I seem to get alot of ash.
WHOA wait a minute! You got bagged RICE for $210/ton? How many tons did you buy to get that price? Did they give you a discount b/c you bought a stove from them?

I bought 3 tons of loose delivered from Cranston Coal in maybe late September and it was ~$248/ton. I'll check the checkbook when I get home.

I work right near the KIRLEY MASONRY SUPPLY CO. in MANSFIELD, MA. I'll have to stop by and see what price I can get on bagged rice.


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Post Tue. Feb. 05, 2008 4:17 pm

beatle78 wrote:
spc wrote:If you are not far from RI, Cranston Coal has bagged Blaschak. I bought bulk $210 a ton back in November. I don't know if their bulk is Blaschak, I seem to get alot of ash.
WHOA wait a minute! You got bagged RICE for $210/ton? How many tons did you buy to get that price? Did they give you a discount b/c you bought a stove from them?

I bought 3 tons of loose delivered from Cranston Coal in maybe late September and it was ~$248/ton. I'll check the checkbook when I get home.

I work right near the KIRLEY MASONRY SUPPLY CO. in MANSFIELD, MA. I'll have to stop by and see what price I can get on bagged rice.
kirley is just under 300 a ton bagged and picked up. its what i'm burning now.

it sounds like he picked it up bulk in ri, I called last week and it was around 225. I asked what kind it was and they wen't sure. I guess they get it from several different places.

i'll be picking it up myself bulk from now on.
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Post Tue. Feb. 05, 2008 4:26 pm

sandman wrote:
sandman wrote: WHOA wait a minute! You got bagged RICE for $210/ton? How many tons did you buy to get that price? Did they give you a discount b/c you bought a stove from them?

I bought 3 tons of loose delivered from Cranston Coal in maybe late September and it was ~$248/ton. I'll check the checkbook when I get home.

I work right near the KIRLEY MASONRY SUPPLY CO. in MANSFIELD, MA. I'll have to stop by and see what price I can get on bagged rice.
kirley is just under 300 a ton bagged and picked up. its what i'm burning now.

it sounds like he picked it up bulk in ri, I called last week and it was around 225. I asked what kind it was and they wen't sure. I guess they get it from several different places.

i'll be picking it up myself bulk from now on.
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Ok, so Cranston Coal was $225/ton bagged and picked up? So that's $4.50 per 40lb bag.

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Post Tue. Feb. 05, 2008 4:30 pm

I may buy a few bags of Blaschak from Mansfield to see how it burns. I always thought I got a lot more ash than I'm supposed to be getting from Cranston Coal. (not unburnt, just a lot of ash). But I'm fairly new to the whole coal world. This is my third season.

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Post Tue. Feb. 05, 2008 5:32 pm

I think my mixing tactic is working! It's been almost 2 weeks & the stove is still going. I can still feel some binding when I shake it down but I am being very careful to not push the shaker handle to far. So far so good!
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Post Tue. Feb. 05, 2008 6:01 pm

beatle78 wrote:
Ok, so Cranston Coal was $225/ton bagged and picked up? So that's $4.50 per 40lb bag.
no, it's bulk. they probably use a front end loader and fill up whatever your got with one or more tons
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Post Tue. Feb. 05, 2008 6:14 pm

Well, got up to 3 bags into the Keystoker of the Blaschak, seems to burn good.

The ash is much lighter (more grey) then the other coal that is more reddish. Seems like about the same amount of ash, maybe just a bit less. The temps might be a few degrees higher with it.

Other than that, must be the bulk I get isn't that bad after all.
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Post Tue. Feb. 05, 2008 6:23 pm

sandman wrote:
beatle78 wrote:
Ok, so Cranston Coal was $225/ton bagged and picked up? So that's $4.50 per 40lb bag.
no, it's bulk. they probably use a front end loader and fill up whatever your got with one or more tons
ohhhh... ok, I'll call them tomorrow to see how much it is bagged.

Here's what I don't get. What do you do with bulk? Do you use a pickup bed and the shovel it into a bin? That seems like quite a bit of work to me :shock:


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