Wow, This January Is Different (and Cold)! I'm Eating Coal!

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Post Sun. Jan. 19, 2014 9:31 am

If I extended my house to 13,000 Sq-Ft, I'd be looking at burning about 25 tons a year.
Yes, but to what standard? Some is pole and beam barn that is only heated to 60* and starts late and finishes early in the season. The second AnthraKing is only during really bitchy weather. No two installs are the same but the 4x multiplier over heating oil costs seems a given AND I'm a LOT warmer I'm sure of that. :D :D
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Post Sun. Jan. 19, 2014 9:33 am

coalnewbie wrote:
If I extended my house to 13,000 Sq-Ft, I'd be looking at burning about 25 tons a year.
Yes, but to what standard?
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Post Thu. Jan. 23, 2014 3:19 pm

Ran some new calculations based on proposed temps for the rest of January, we're on pace to have over 300 more HDD then last year. And with more wind, I'm really burning through the coal.

Bad news is, we have ~8 inches of snow on the ground with some more on the way, and my coal guy is not sure he'll be able to deliver until it's gone.

Hopefully, that ton of coal lasts till this cold snap is over....

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Post Thu. Jan. 23, 2014 7:41 pm

13,000 sq ft?? That's a.....warehouse, not a house. :lol:

We've used just shy of a ton since Jan 1 here but that's keeping the house around 72° and the garage around 50-55°F plus hot water. These cold nights really add up though, to the tune of about 150# daily.

Luckily we still have 6 more large bags sitting in the driveway just waiting for it to warm up enough that the backhoe will be happy to start ;) Saturday is looking pretty good according to the forecast. Maybe even get some riding in before the cool sets in again.
Always learning, still stupid though :D

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Post Thu. Jan. 23, 2014 8:37 pm

"She can't take much more of this, Captain... she's breaking up"

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Post Thu. Jan. 23, 2014 8:48 pm

Just putting this out there, pretty cool site.

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Post Fri. Jan. 24, 2014 10:02 pm

My coal consumption has only increased by a small amount. I believe that it is times like this that the big stove philosophy pays off. My stoves under normal conditions run at little more than idle temperatures. 300-450 degrees. To combat the below zero temperatures, I have been running them at 500-550 or so. I have been burning about 20-30 pounds more coal a day in the Glenwood to maintain the same level of comfort in the house. The Crawford is taking only about 15 pounds more. That amounts to a little more than one extra bucket of coal each day.

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Post Sat. Jan. 25, 2014 3:23 am

One extra bucket per day isn't much, but it is a big % increase if you went from one to two. :)


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Post Sat. Jan. 25, 2014 7:03 am

Rob R. wrote:Time to start shutting down parts of the house. Maybe put up a tent in the living room. :)
Hooray! A person who puts out ideas ! I would do this ... but the wifey would complain that the kitchen is too cold lol.

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Post Sat. Jan. 25, 2014 7:06 am

dcrane wrote:"She can't take much more of this, Captain... she's breaking up"
Wifey wanted to turn on the oil boiler ... so I had to shoot it to prevent that from occurring ..... you may now guess which I shot amongst yourselves....

Just increased the output of the stove, duh. Problem solved. Burning about 133% more than recent weeks .... but hey, its WINTER ...

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Post Sat. Jan. 25, 2014 1:54 pm

"I'm a doctor, not a coal miner." – Bones...

Where I used a coal shovel I now use a skid steer.
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Post Sat. Jan. 25, 2014 2:14 pm

13,000 sq ft?? That's a.....warehouse, not a house. :lol:
The house is only 7000 sq ft and the rest is farm and guest house stuff. The house makes up for it by being such a leak box it feels like it's heating a 13000 sq ft normal home on it's own. I would jump off the roof but it's too slippery for me to get up there.
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Post Sat. Jan. 25, 2014 2:23 pm

Some peoples land in the city around here isn't even 7k square feet .... :lol: We call 'em postage stamps. ;)
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Post Sun. Jan. 26, 2014 5:10 pm

I just topped off the drum...830 lbs in 7 days. Might as well call it 120 lbs per day, I only eyeballed the last pail. That is the most I have ever burned in one week.

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Post Sun. Jan. 26, 2014 5:50 pm

Rob R. wrote:I just topped off the drum...830 lbs in 7 days. Might as well call it 120 lbs per day, I only eyeballed the last pail. That is the most I have ever burned in one week.
From last Monday through today I went through 615 lbs., which is likely to be my record also. But next week will potentially top it.
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