What Happened Post 1998 to Devastate Anthracite Production?

lsayre · Post by **lsayre** » Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 6:28 am

http://coaldiver.org/coal-diver/Pennsylvania-Anthracite

PS: There is some great stuff on this website.

Post by **Rob R.** » Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 6:55 am

Only thing I remember is the price of diesel dropped big time...it was about $1 per gallon.

lsayre · Post by **lsayre** » Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 7:37 am

Why no recovery for anthracite when diesel is now at about $3.90/gal. and #2 heating oil is at about $3.55/gal?

It almost seems to be that as fuel/heating oil prices rise anthracite production declines. Seems to me that just the opposite should be intuitively correct. Perhaps some other reason caused anthracite production to drop like a rock post 1998?

blrman07 · Post by **blrman07** » Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 8:18 am

China coal production was around 300 million tons and production and consumption started skyrocketing when they started their push for industrial supremacy over the US in 1980. They were importing a majority of what they used from guess where? Yep USA.

Today they are mining and consuming almost 1,600 million tons of their own coal. When your best customer starts producing their own raw materials instead of buying it from you it makes an impact.

Rev. Larry
New Beginning Church
Ashland Pa.

lsayre · Post by **lsayre** » Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 8:33 am

blrman07 wrote:China coal production was around 300 million tons and production and consumption started skyrocketing when they started their push for industrial supremacy over the US in 1980. They were importing a majority of what they used from guess where? Yep USA.

Today they are mining and consuming almost 1,600 million tons of their own coal. When your best customer starts producing their own raw materials instead of buying it from you it makes an impact.

Rev. Larry
New Beginning Church
Ashland Pa.

That makes good sense!

Hambden Bob · Post by **Hambden Bob** » Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 11:50 am

Couple that with US EPA Bullying and Harrassment Tactics and I think you've got your answer.

anthony7812 · Post by **anthony7812** » Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 11:52 am

i thought China was buying again...??

McGiever · Post by **McGiever** » Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 2:22 pm

Things are in place already to move coal in short order.
As is everywhere, it is all about the money...when it becomes more economical to get the US coal, they will get it.

2001Sierra · Post by **2001Sierra** » Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 4:49 pm

McGiever wrote:Things are in place already to move coal in short order.
As is everywhere, it is all about the money...when it becomes more economical to get the US coal, they will get it.

I hope this is TRUE

Post by **Rob R.** » Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 4:50 pm

2001Sierra wrote:
McGiever wrote:Things are in place already to move coal in short order.
As is everywhere, it is all about the money...when it becomes more economical to get the US coal, they will get it.

I hope this is TRUE

You want anthracite exported to China?

2001Sierra · Post by **2001Sierra** » Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 5:03 pm

I hope this is TRUE

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You want anthracite exported to China?[/quote]

OOPS

I was looking at production numbers then postcard photos and did not read everything, I interpreted everything was ready for us NOT CHINA!

Hambden Bob · Post by **Hambden Bob** » Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 5:12 pm

Thank You !

dlj · Post by **dlj** » Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 5:56 pm

I've been listening to the idea that the Chinese are going to buy anthracite from the US. But I have to ask, why would they do that? It would be an extremely expensive fuel source for them.

dj

lsayre · Post by **lsayre** » Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 6:11 pm

dlj wrote:I've been listening to the idea that the Chinese are going to buy anthracite from the US. But I have to ask, why would they do that? It would be an extremely expensive fuel source for them.

dj

They don't use it as fuel. They use it as a substitute for coke.

dlj · Post by **dlj** » Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 6:18 pm

lsayre wrote:
dlj wrote:I've been listening to the idea that the Chinese are going to buy anthracite from the US. But I have to ask, why would they do that? It would be an extremely expensive fuel source for them.

dj
They don't use it as fuel. They use it as a substitute for coke.

But they can buy anthracite from Russia, Vietnam and North Korea. Why would they come to the eastern US?

dj