What Happened Post 1998 to Devastate Anthracite Production?

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Post Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 6:28 am

http://coaldiver.org/coal-diver/Pennsylvania-Anthracite

PS: There is some great stuff on this website.
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Post Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 6:55 am

Only thing I remember is the price of diesel dropped big time...it was about $1 per gallon.

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Post Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 7:37 am

Why no recovery for anthracite when diesel is now at about $3.90/gal. and #2 heating oil is at about $3.55/gal?

It almost seems to be that as fuel/heating oil prices rise anthracite production declines. Seems to me that just the opposite should be intuitively correct. Perhaps some other reason caused anthracite production to drop like a rock post 1998?
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Post Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 8:18 am

China coal production was around 300 million tons and production and consumption started skyrocketing when they started their push for industrial supremacy over the US in 1980. They were importing a majority of what they used from guess where? Yep USA.

Today they are mining and consuming almost 1,600 million tons of their own coal. When your best customer starts producing their own raw materials instead of buying it from you it makes an impact.

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Post Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 8:33 am

blrman07 wrote:China coal production was around 300 million tons and production and consumption started skyrocketing when they started their push for industrial supremacy over the US in 1980. They were importing a majority of what they used from guess where? Yep USA.

Today they are mining and consuming almost 1,600 million tons of their own coal. When your best customer starts producing their own raw materials instead of buying it from you it makes an impact.

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That makes good sense!
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Post Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 11:50 am

Couple that with US EPA Bullying and Harrassment Tactics and I think you've got your answer.
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Post Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 11:52 am

i thought China was buying again...??
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Post Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 2:22 pm

Things are in place already to move coal in short order.
As is everywhere, it is all about the money...when it becomes more economical to get the US coal, they will get it.
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Post Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 4:49 pm

McGiever wrote:Things are in place already to move coal in short order.
As is everywhere, it is all about the money...when it becomes more economical to get the US coal, they will get it.

I hope this is TRUE :)

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Post Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 4:50 pm

2001Sierra wrote:
McGiever wrote:Things are in place already to move coal in short order.
As is everywhere, it is all about the money...when it becomes more economical to get the US coal, they will get it.

I hope this is TRUE :)
You want anthracite exported to China?

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Post Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 5:03 pm

I hope this is TRUE :)[/quote]

You want anthracite exported to China?[/quote]

OOPS :oops: I was looking at production numbers then postcard photos and did not read everything, I interpreted everything was ready for us NOT CHINA! :mad:

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Post Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 5:12 pm

Thank You ! :up:
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Post Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 5:56 pm

I've been listening to the idea that the Chinese are going to buy anthracite from the US. But I have to ask, why would they do that? It would be an extremely expensive fuel source for them.

dj

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Post Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 6:11 pm

dlj wrote:I've been listening to the idea that the Chinese are going to buy anthracite from the US. But I have to ask, why would they do that? It would be an extremely expensive fuel source for them.

dj
They don't use it as fuel. They use it as a substitute for coke.
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Post Sun. Jan. 12, 2014 6:18 pm

lsayre wrote:
dlj wrote:I've been listening to the idea that the Chinese are going to buy anthracite from the US. But I have to ask, why would they do that? It would be an extremely expensive fuel source for them.

dj
They don't use it as fuel. They use it as a substitute for coke.

But they can buy anthracite from Russia, Vietnam and North Korea. Why would they come to the eastern US?

dj


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