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Post Fri. Jan. 18, 2008 11:35 pm

Inline six, or was Grandma a 'free spirit' and she got the 289 V8? Or the 260 V8 [I think?].

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Post Sat. Jan. 19, 2008 7:58 am

LsFarm wrote:Inline six, or was Grandma a 'free spirit' and she got the 289 V8? Or the 260 V8 [I think?].

Greg L
It's a 144 CID 6. The V8 was first offered in 1963, a 260. Mine's a '62. Standard transmission, 3 speed. In late '62 ford offered a four-speed, I have one for it, not installed yet. The original 3 speed is just about shot, the sincros are going and I have to double-clutch it to shift quite a bit.
It's unbelievably reliable, always starts and purrs along, not much power, the 144 is rated at 85 HP, solid tappets with the manual trans. The 170 was an option. Holley carb with a throat about 1 1/2" wide.

One of my friends has a '61, bought new by his father, it is his first car as well.

Maybe I 'll start a car thread, I'd like to hear more about the Pierce.
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Post Sat. Jan. 19, 2008 10:01 am

mufwapo wrote:I'm just curious but what is the advantage of having an "Outdoor" boiler? I don't see how that makes anything any better. Unless you don't have a basement what makes them so popular?
With wood the advantage is that it keeps all of the mess outfoors. That is true with coal as well, but I'm learning that there is far less mess with coal. For my application, I want to heat 2 seperate buildings, and I have a good spot to locate the outdoor boiler between the two, and I can store/dump coal right next to the boiler very convieniently.


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Post Sat. Jan. 19, 2008 10:34 am

coaledsweat wrote:I wouldn't say they are popular, especially with the neighbors. They aren't very efficient and consume a lot more than they are worth. If you have troubles, your going to be out there freezing too. A homes heat source should be in it, the losses will heat your house, not the neighborhood. They are also pretty expensive for what you wind up with if you ask me.
How about this idea. :idea: I saw it years ago in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. It was designed to burn wood pallets, but I think the concept could be easily modified to burn coal.

This gentleman's "outdoor boiler" was the size of a small shed - about 8'w x 8'h x 10'd as I recall. As I said, his version was designed to burn pallets (which the owner had plentiful free access to from his workplace) so it had a large firebox (3-4"w x 5'h x 8'd), and the firebox was surrounded (encased) by 18" to 24" of sand. Copper water pipes ran through the sand. The purpose of the sand was to trap and hold heat. The water tubes absorbed the heat from the sand and brought it into the house, similar to the standard outside boiler. But the owner told me that he would fire the thing once a day, usually when he got home from work with about 8-10 pallets in the back of his pickup. He wouldn't bust them down or anything, he pushed them in whole (hence the need for the large firebox), sprayed a little bit of diesel fuel on the ends of a couple of them to light them, and then closed it up and walked away. The fire would burn hot for an hour or two and go out, but the sand absorbed enough heat to last the whole night and the next day until he fired it again. I know there was some baffling in the firebox with some dampers to allow a direct draft/vent when you first lit the fire. Once it was established, you closed the dampers and the smoke/exhaust had to travel through the baffles which allowed for more heat to be absorbed. I remember that the owner said he had some issues with creosote build-up in the chimney because the smoke was relatively cool by the time it reached the chimney - he said that he just kept the dampers open once a month and let a good chimney fire burn it out.

Now I was thinking that if I burned coal instead of pallets, I could build something similar, but not as big.

I wish that I could remember where I saw this boiler. But alas... it was years ago when I was in college, and all I can remember is that it was in the U.P. somewhere along the Lake Superior shoreline! (Dang Sometimers' Disease... :lol: ) Hmm... seems like there was 2 seperate water loops - one that was in direct contact with the firebox and distributed the heat more completely through the sand, and the second that brought the heat into the house.

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Post Sat. Jan. 19, 2008 11:12 am

I think they had a 221" or something smaller before the 260".
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Post Wed. Jul. 31, 2013 5:46 pm

Bringing back a old thread. 1933 Pierce Silver Arrow pictures. Don't know if any of you read "The Chive" daily but here is a link from the throttle, which, has pictures of cars.
http://thethrottle.thechive.com/2013/07/30/so-nic ... hq-photos/
Gouldsboro PA.

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