Would This Work Well as an Anthracite Home Heating Coal?
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Claims itself to be the worlds largest anthracite deposit. Analyticals are on page 13. Slow loading, so be patient.
http://atrumcoal.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/0 ... -2013b.pdf
http://atrumcoal.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/0 ... -2013b.pdf
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Did some "digging" this is the largest UNDEVELOPED HIGH GRADE anthracite reserve in the world, by no means the largest reserve. Estimated 1.57 billion tons of recoverable anthracite. By comparison, PA has an estimated recoverable reserve of 7 billion tons down from original 22 billion tons.
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Interesting...Don't think we need ever think of getting any of it.
Maybe could start a new thread..."Getting Your Coal by Oceangoing Ship" or "Anybody know how much it cost to get ship passage through the Panama Canal?"
But seriously, Once this is on the open market, it may help hold Global Prices for Anthracite in check.
Maybe could start a new thread..."Getting Your Coal by Oceangoing Ship" or "Anybody know how much it cost to get ship passage through the Panama Canal?"
But seriously, Once this is on the open market, it may help hold Global Prices for Anthracite in check.
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Largest reserve all owned by one company perhaps?Carbon12 wrote:Did some "digging" this is the largest UNDEVELOPED HIGH GRADE anthracite reserve in the world, by no means the largest reserve. Estimated 1.57 billion tons of recoverable anthracite. By comparison, PA has an estimated recoverable reserve of 7 billion tons down from original 22 billion tons.
Don't see it affecting the NE USA at all. NW USA should see an impact if the railroads will ship it southlike. If nothing else Canada can sell their coal to the eastern countries and that will leave more US coal for us.
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This mine has High Grade Anthracite. Russia and South Africa (and others) have Ultra High Grade Anthracite. Both used in processes other than heating or power generation. Apparently, Standard Grade Anthracite is what we are all burning for heat.
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From Wikipedia:
Anthracite is classified into three grades, depending on its carbon content. Standard grade is used as a domestic fuel and in industrial power-generation. The rarer higher grades of anthracite are purer – i.e., they have a higher carbon content – and are used in steel-making and other segments of the metallurgical industries. Technical characteristics of the various grades of anthracite are as follows:[citation needed]
Standard grade anthracite HG anthracite UHG anthracite Coke
Moisture (maximum) 15% 15% 13% 5%
Ash (maximum) 20% 15% 12% 14%
Volatiles (maximum) 10% 10% 5% 2%
Fixed carbon (minimum) 73% 80% 85% 84%
Sulfur (maximum) 1% 1% 0.6% 0.8%
Phosphorus 0.02% 0.002% 0.002% 0.04%
Anthracite is classified into three grades, depending on its carbon content. Standard grade is used as a domestic fuel and in industrial power-generation. The rarer higher grades of anthracite are purer – i.e., they have a higher carbon content – and are used in steel-making and other segments of the metallurgical industries. Technical characteristics of the various grades of anthracite are as follows:[citation needed]
Standard grade anthracite HG anthracite UHG anthracite Coke
Moisture (maximum) 15% 15% 13% 5%
Ash (maximum) 20% 15% 12% 14%
Volatiles (maximum) 10% 10% 5% 2%
Fixed carbon (minimum) 73% 80% 85% 84%
Sulfur (maximum) 1% 1% 0.6% 0.8%
Phosphorus 0.02% 0.002% 0.002% 0.04%
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The characteristics they are listing for high grade anthracite is about the same for white ash, matter fact there is some coal near Hazelton that exceeds those characteristics by a lot as in 5% ash. That's so hard it doesn't want to burn, I had all kinds of trouble the one year with stoker customers, try telling a customer the problem is the coal is too good. That is primarily mined in the Northern field so there is not a lot of it around. You can literally drop a piece of that on the ground and pick shards up sharp enough to shave with, I've done it. Glass like is the best description. You can hear the difference when it's loaded into the truck or going down the chute.
The red ash has more volatiles (hence the reason for the red ash) and higher ash content but everyone loves it so whatever....
The red ash has more volatiles (hence the reason for the red ash) and higher ash content but everyone loves it so whatever....
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We all sure get a broad based education on this Forum. Who knew there exists coal that is so pure it's hard to burn?!!?
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To clarify It's hard to burn in a stoker becsue it never gets a chance, you get a lot of unburned coal. You need a lot of air and slow down the feed if you can. It's the holy grail for a hand fed user. I had stoker users on one hand bitching at me and hand fed users on the other hand telling me it was the best coal they ever had.
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This difference makes it difficult to rely on opinions and critiques on the various coal sources...some burn in stokers and some in hand feds...big difference between a natural draft and turbo draft in how the fire behaves.Richard S. wrote:To clarify It's hard to burn in a stoker becsue it never gets a chance, you get a lot of unburned coal. You need a lot of air and slow down the feed if you can. It's the holy grail for a hand fed user. I had stoker users on one hand bitching at me and hand fed users on the other hand telling me it was the best coal they ever had.
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:nice:Carbon12 wrote:We all sure get a broad based education on this Forum. Who knew there exists coal that is so pure it's hard to burn?!!?