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Post Mon. Nov. 11, 2013 9:37 pm

I am new to burning coal and have recently installed hyfire II with a hot air jacket in my basement. My home is a older 3000 sq ft farm house with poor insulation. The outside temps are in the 30's and I an burning around 65- 70 lbs a day. Is this average or out of line?


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Post Mon. Nov. 11, 2013 9:40 pm

Welcome to the forum!

Is that in the 30s in the daytime, or at night? What temperature do you keep the house at? Do you have any pics of your setup? Also, updating your profile with your general location can be helpful.

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Post Mon. Nov. 11, 2013 9:42 pm

Welcome to the forum. I do not have particulars on your stove but if we keep watching those enlightened individuals will start chiming in. Be prepared for lots of questions and if you can post some pics of your setup. Some things to note will be how many floors, what system do you use to distribute the heat, if using blowers CFM ratings, and lots of other nit picky details. Keep the faith and others will appear to help.

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Post Mon. Nov. 11, 2013 9:42 pm

That's only about 32,500 BTU / hour. Almost doesn't seem like enough.
Do you have both burners lit ?

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Post Mon. Nov. 11, 2013 9:44 pm

Hard to speculate jh. Like LD said some pix & a more detailed explanation -- duct work, location, 2 story--3 story--stove in basement--finished--not---etc. Welcome to the FORUM--lots of info/help here--just lay out some more specifics:)

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Post Mon. Nov. 11, 2013 10:08 pm

I'm in WNY. The temps are 30s at night around 40 daytime. The furnace is located in the basement with the hot air jacket attached to the cold air return plenum on my oil furnace. The coal trol temp is set at 68 and is satisfied with a feed rate usually in the 10-20% range. The burners have about 3 inches of burnt coal at the ends of the grates. It is attached to a 40 ft masonry chimney with barometric damper. From comparing to what others claim to use, it seems like I'm burning a lot for this moderate weather.

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Post Tue. Nov. 12, 2013 2:42 am

tsb wrote:That's only about 32,500 BTU / hour. Almost doesn't seem like enough.
Do you have both burners lit ?
I agree that's pretty good :D
I'm burning 40-50 pounds a day in a hand fed for 2500 square feet which includes the unfinished basement. The basement only receives excess radiant heat off the furnace.

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Post Tue. Nov. 12, 2013 2:54 am

Lightning wrote:
tsb wrote:That's only about 32,500 BTU / hour. Almost doesn't seem like enough.
Do you have both burners lit ?
I agree that's pretty good :D
I'm burning 40-50 pounds a day in a hand fed for 2500 square feet which includes the unfinished basement. The basement only receives excess radiant heat off the furnace.
Im doing about 30lbs per day in 2200 sq', but I know when temps get colder I will chew up at least 50lbs per day. a lot depends on the temps you wish to maintain as well (some folks are comfortable at 60, some like 70)
you may know this already but ill post it anyways just incase... their is a section on this forum specific to Leisure Line Stoves Leisure Line Stove Company (just incase you needed any specific info on your model).


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Post Tue. Nov. 12, 2013 6:36 am

jhart wrote:I am new to burning coal and have recently installed hyfire II with a hot air jacket in my basement. My home is a older 3000 sq ft farm house with poor insulation. The outside temps are in the 30's and I an burning around 65- 70 lbs a day. Is this average or out of line?
I think you are doing pretty well! Older homes are energy hogs, and if your farm house is exposed to the wind....that can double your coal consumption compared to someone else that lives in town and doesn't see much wind.

Also, don't forget that you are distributing the heat throughout the entire house with duct work...the average temperature in the different rooms is likely higher and more consistent than if you were just using a stove in the living room. Lastly, since the LL is in the return ductwork, it also has to keep the oil furnace warm...that results in more heat in the basement.

How large is the basement? Staying comfortable?

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Post Tue. Nov. 12, 2013 12:24 pm

The basement is probably 800 sq ft with unfinished concrete walls. Only one end of the house out of ground though. The house with basement is around 3200 sq ft. The ductwork only heats the 1st floor of the house and the basement is radiant only. Its very comfortable both downstairs and basement, just a lot coal to go through in a year.

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Post Tue. Nov. 12, 2013 12:42 pm

How much fuel did you burn previously?

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Post Tue. Nov. 12, 2013 1:35 pm

Ridiculous amount of oil for years. Then I installed a wood burner. Great heat but a ton of work. I was burning well over 20 cord a year and cutting it myself since I own a few hundred acres.

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Post Tue. Nov. 12, 2013 2:44 pm

well, if a full cord that would roughly be 22,000,000 BTU's depending on which wood and its quality.

A ton of coal is approx 24,000,000 btu's.

so by a rough, 3 second calculation 20 cord would be maybe 18 ton of coal per year.
jhart wrote:Great heat but a ton of work. I was burning well over 20 cord a year and cutting it myself since I own a few hundred acres
on the bright side, you saved a lot of money on health club memberships! Been there done that myself! :)

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Post Tue. Nov. 12, 2013 2:46 pm

jhart wrote:Ridiculous amount of oil for years. Then I installed a wood burner. Great heat but a ton of work. I was burning well over 20 cord a year and cutting it myself since I own a few hundred acres.
That does point to burning a lot of coal too. Just less work. Improving the heat loss of the house would go a long way.

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Post Tue. Nov. 12, 2013 3:16 pm

There may be confusion there between face cords and full cords. He won't need to burn 18 tons of coal :lol:


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