Stove & Fireplace Shop Tried to Steer Me Away From Coal

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Rob R.
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Post Wed. Jul. 18, 2012 11:23 am

Those of us that burn coal tend to be the hard-core DIY type.
wales12355 wrote:i wouldn't even buy from a dealer myself they are a waste of time and money. this is a great site and there are tons of people willing to lend advise.
When you price out some new parts from EFM you might change your mind. A dealer with a good selection of used/refurbished parts can be a big asset.

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Post Sat. Jul. 21, 2012 9:25 am

burning anthracite, any stove, for any amount of total heating is a "niche" market. as it requires a certain amount of DIY, patience, work and a need for the feeling of self sufficiency. most people crave convenience, only a few can master the black diamonds.

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Post Sat. Jul. 21, 2012 9:52 am

most people crave convenience, only a few can master the black diamonds.
When I discovered the new age of stoker coal stoves I tried to tell the world. No one was/is listening and now that is fine by me. I am constantly amazed by the slow growth of the coal industry around here and we are reasonably close to NEPA. Then last year we were worried about supply and I woke up. What am I doing preaching to the world? Let them have their solar panels in a land where the sun don't shine six months of the year. Black diamonds suit me fine.
Posted by an unreasonable adult.

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Post Sat. Sep. 01, 2012 9:22 am

In my experience most people get real interested when you tell them how cheap it is to heat a house with coal and then get just as "uninterested" when you tell them it requires a little bit more work than turning a thermostat on an oil burner.


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Post Sat. Sep. 01, 2012 8:03 pm

jsteel wrote:In my experience most people get real interested when you tell them how cheap it is to heat a house with coal and then get just as "uninterested" when you tell them it requires a little bit more work than turning a thermostat on an oil burner.
That has been basically my experience as well. Bitch constantly about heating costs, but, unwilling to lift a finger to do anything about it.
Burning western Pennsylvania Bituminous in WNY using model 77 stoker furnace. BITUMINOUS equiptment: 2 hand fired stoves of my own design, Many Combustioneer Model 77 stokers, stokermatic furnace, Many Will-Burt stokers, & and Two Iron firemen.

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Post Sat. Sep. 01, 2012 8:35 pm

We should be getting NG soon. I am the last one that needs it as I am buring coal. Who put up the signs supporting it :?: :x The last person that needs it in the neighborhood, me :roll: Hopefully it will come through. Yes I will hookup, but burning coal is in my blood, so all the gas will do is heat my hotwater like the devil oil has been doing for all the previous years.
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Rob R.
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Post Sat. Sep. 01, 2012 8:37 pm

Berlin wrote:
jsteel wrote:In my experience most people get real interested when you tell them how cheap it is to heat a house with coal and then get just as "uninterested" when you tell them it requires a little bit more work than turning a thermostat on an oil burner.
That has been basically my experience as well. Bitch constantly about heating costs, but, unwilling to lift a finger to do anything about it.
Most people just live in a house that barely sees 65 degrees in the winter...or they join the crowd and put in a pellet stove. To each their own I guess.

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Post Sat. Sep. 01, 2012 8:46 pm

It is our secret, just lets hope we can keep the mines open :?


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Post Mon. Oct. 08, 2012 6:02 pm

well I got me a keystoker A 120 and I have to say I think this will be best move I ever made....was burning pellets but every pallet was different was never the same heat every time...at least with coal it will be the same pallet after pallet....i don't think I will regret it and thanks to this forum I learned alot. :D
i use to burn 4 tons of pellets im curious how much that will be in coal.

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Post Mon. Oct. 08, 2012 6:28 pm

Welcome to the FORUM. Oh yeah, you're going to love it. Lots of info here, any questions, just ask. :)
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Post Fri. Oct. 19, 2012 10:00 pm

Rob R. wrote:
Berlin wrote: That has been basically my experience as well. Bitch constantly about heating costs, but, unwilling to lift a finger to do anything about it.
Most people just live in a house that barely sees 65 degrees in the winter...or they join the crowd and put in a pellet stove. To each their own I guess.
To be fair, there's nothing inherently wrong with pellet stoves. For me, it came down to not wanting a stove that needed a battery backup and something that was reliable for long-term burns without much effort on my part. If I lose power for 2-3 days (something that happens somewhat regularly), I am inconvenienced but not dead in the water like my idiot neighbors who cant handle losing power for more than a couple hours. I don't get people that are that unprepared for things like that.

Coal does both of those things quite nicely. That's its also cheap and easy to store? Fantastic.

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