Not Enough Heat...

Modern and vintage hand fired coal stove are similar to a wood stove and in some cases can burn either. They need to be regulated and fed by hand usually every 12 to 24 hours depending on your usage. They require no power to operate making them ideal for rural settings with long power outages.
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Devil505
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Post Sun. Jan. 04, 2009 1:01 pm

4570FAN wrote:At this point, COAL SUCKS. Unless I can figure out my problem, I'm going back to wood. Any suggestions?
I think it's obvious that, when everyone else here is successful at heating a home of your size with coal, & the fact that you have a perfectly good coal stove & that you are a wood burner.......... new to coal, the problem is not with the coal but something you are either doing wrong or not doing in terms of your technique. We are all trying to help you find out what the problem is, but the fact is that coal burns totally differently than wood & you need to learn how to burn it correctly. If you decide to turn back to wood, that's your choice, but we are all trying to help you over the big hurtle of switching from wood to coal. Accept the FACT that coal doesn't SUCK, it burns just fine but differently than wood & if you want to learn how to burn it correctly, we are here to help.....If however, you decide to quit, there are plenty of people here I'm sure, who would be willing to buy your coal stove, it's a good one. ;)
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Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
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Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove
Location: Cape Cod, MA

Post Sun. Jan. 04, 2009 1:23 pm

Easy Boy! :P
He has yet to give up the ways of wood!
Soon to see the way of coal.
Some have a hard time, some can be turned easily!
Nut, Nut, Stove!
I am not an engineer, train or otherwise!
I stay at a Holiday Inn at least once a year!
Most of all I do have common sense and a practical application of logic.
Oh, add humor, on the dry side, along with a wee bit 'o sarcasm.

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Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - (custom built by Jim Dorsey, Taunton MA - RIP 4/18/13)
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (SOLD!)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler
Location: West-Central Mass

Post Sun. Jan. 04, 2009 1:35 pm

Devil : DEFENDER OF COAL :lol:

Here's some numbers off my Mark III:

Temp outside just went to 30*, so I turned the damper down to 1.75 turns out. Stack temp is 225* - 250*. Side of the stove in the center & 4" below top is 550*. Top center with blower on is 400*.
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Post Sun. Jan. 04, 2009 4:14 pm

I don't think you can really consider me a "dyed in the wool wood burner". I've burnt a total of 3 cord of firewood in my house in my entire life! A draft reading of .o6" is what is recommended by Harman. The spinner is 3 turns out because it won't keep the house warm any lower than that. I will lower my baro setting to .04" and decrease my spinner setting to 1.5 turns out. I'll keep you posted. Thanks.

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Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
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Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove
Location: Cape Cod, MA

Post Sun. Jan. 04, 2009 4:18 pm

Do you have stove thermometers on the body of the stove and before the barometer?
Tempatures fro these would help.
Are you setting the baro with a manometer or just by the marks on the barometer?
I am not an engineer, train or otherwise!
I stay at a Holiday Inn at least once a year!
Most of all I do have common sense and a practical application of logic.
Oh, add humor, on the dry side, along with a wee bit 'o sarcasm.

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Post Sun. Jan. 04, 2009 4:29 pm

I have a thermometer I stole of a BBQ grill sitting on top of the stove. It is not accurate AT ALL. I just use it to watch for a change. The only thermo on my pipe is the one after the baro. It is in the flue. My baro was set at .06" using a manometer, but all other changes are based on it's markings.

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Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove
Location: Cape Cod, MA

Post Sun. Jan. 04, 2009 4:42 pm

Get two stove thermometers that work, one for the body and one for the stove pipe below the barometer it will make your life easier.

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A working, accurate thermometer will help you dial in the stove.
I am not an engineer, train or otherwise!
I stay at a Holiday Inn at least once a year!
Most of all I do have common sense and a practical application of logic.
Oh, add humor, on the dry side, along with a wee bit 'o sarcasm.

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Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - (custom built by Jim Dorsey, Taunton MA - RIP 4/18/13)
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (SOLD!)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler
Location: West-Central Mass

Post Sat. Jan. 10, 2009 2:06 pm

Too bad the shipping costs almost as much as the thermometer itself! :shock:

That Rutland one is the exact one I have -- I still paid over $15 for it at the store in town here. :o
The laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are
neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. ...Such laws make things worse
for the assaulted and better for the assailants, they serve rather to
encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with
greater confidence than an armed man."

- Thomas Jefferson, quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria in "On
Crimes and Punishment."

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