Dilemma

Modern and vintage hand fired coal stove are similar to a wood stove and in some cases can burn either. They need to be regulated and fed by hand usually every 12 to 24 hours depending on your usage. They require no power to operate making them ideal for rural settings with long power outages.
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Salemcoal
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Post Sat. Oct. 18, 2008 10:50 pm

switching out from alaska t handfired. Either the Harman sf 150 or gibraltar scs. Harman has a blower but the gibraltar has a bigger viewing window but no blower. Any opinions? Thanks

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Post Sat. Oct. 18, 2008 10:52 pm

I'd get the SF150, the fan and built in heat exchanger work very well.. The SF models are very well made, and are very capable heaters.. I've seen one heating a shop near me.. It's a nice stove..

I've also seen 'coal berner's Gibraltar stove burning,, it however has a very good blower and heat jacket around the stove.. and it really puts out the heat.. the grates look like they are about 40# each.. A big brute of a stove.

I prefer a stove with a fan,, a fan makes a stove more efficient, washes more heat off the stove body, and reduces the flue temperature..

Greg L.
Burning Pea/Buckwheat through an antique stoker [semi retired SSboiler],
Running an Axeman-Anderson 260M boiler burning Pea, About 150-250#per day
Farming, Fixing, Fabricating and Flying: 'spare time' what's that?

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Post Sun. Oct. 19, 2008 12:10 am

Salemcoal wrote:switching out from alaska t handfired. Either the Harman sf 150 or gibraltar scs. Harman has a blower but the gibraltar has a bigger viewing window but no blower. Any opinions? Thanks
Hi Salemcoal Hi think you mean a CFS Gibraltar or a Radiant stove or a SCR Radiant stove all of the other Gibraltar's
models are a double wall stove's or the two inserts have a Fan on them Like Greg said a blower fan makes a differents
but even with out one theses stoves put a lot of heat out To me it would come down to the price differents between the
two Now if you come across a Gibraltar model with a fan on it Buy it here is some info on the different models
Well I guess By reading Everthing I wrote you know which one I would by between the two both are good stoves
but The way these Gibraltar's are built this makes them a better stove in my book and parts are still available there
is no other stove on the todays market that make grates as Thick & as Heavy as these grates are I have 5 in mine
they are 14 1/2 " long 4 1/2 " wide 5 " thick And the fingers are 2 3/4 " thick each weight 15 lbs either way both are good
stoves I guess it would be which one do yo like best and will fit your needs good luck on getting one or both if the price is right ;)

MCC model witch is the one I have double wall with twin blowers freestanding stove holds 105 lbs of nut weight is 600lbs

Model CFS freestanding stove Radiant only single wall no blower fan holds 85lbs or more nut or pea weight ie 485lbs

Model CFI Insert with Fan double wall single door holds 85lbs or more Nut or pea weight is 650lbs

Model DDI insert with fan double wall with twin doors holds 85lbs or more of Nut or Pea weight is 670lbs

Model SCC Freestanding or Hearth stove double wall with Fan 45lbs or more of Nut or Pea weight is 475lbs

Model SCR Freestanding or Hearth stove Radiant heat only single wall no fan should come with a heat shield on back 45lbs
or more of nut or pea weight 405lbs

Model LCC Freestanding stove double wall with twin doors Natural Convection or fan 120lbs Nut or Pea weight is 670lbs

Model DDS Freestanding or Hearth stove double wall Radiant Natural Convection or Fan 56lbs or more Nut or Pea Weight
is 450lbs

Model Stoker LR Freestanding Stove Fan 80lb Hopper Rice or Buck Weight 600lbs
J.C.

Heating house & water with a 1986 electric furnace man DF520 using buckwheat Anthracite coal

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Post Sun. Oct. 19, 2008 12:18 am

Thanks coalberner and LS. I already own both stoves but the wife thinks I only own one. I know the sf 150 will crank but I kinda want to tinker with the cfs.

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Post Sun. Oct. 19, 2008 12:24 am

Coalberner, Have you posted any pictures of your model Gibraltar? I'm curious to see what the big one looks like. Thanks

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Post Sun. Oct. 19, 2008 12:52 am

Salemcoal it is around the same as yours but it is a bouble wall stove and it has a flat top where yours is a step top I do
have photo's let me find them and I will put some on ;)
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Post Sun. Oct. 19, 2008 8:15 am

I just have to ask this. How do you hide a stove from your wife?

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Post Sun. Oct. 19, 2008 11:09 am

This might work:
"Oh Honey, it belongs to a friend who needs some help,, I'm fixing it up for him"

:D
Greg L
Burning Pea/Buckwheat through an antique stoker [semi retired SSboiler],
Running an Axeman-Anderson 260M boiler burning Pea, About 150-250#per day
Farming, Fixing, Fabricating and Flying: 'spare time' what's that?

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Post Sun. Oct. 19, 2008 10:00 pm

It's not the stove, you can always tell her that you had to put it there to plug the hole in the wall where the chimney goes,it's "code". Now, the 4 or 5 tons of coal could pose a problem.
Jotuler
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Post Thu. Oct. 23, 2008 8:48 pm

I ended up hooking the Gibraltar for now. My brother was trying to talk me into the sf 150 but I'll wait till it gets cold up here in northern new york to tinker with that. When I bought this stove last spring I got a good deal on it and originally planned on cleaning it up and selling it. I didn't think much of it at first . Wow was I wrong! This thing is a great stove. I painted it with some stove bright and fired it up on Sunday. It can crank out heat or idle forever. The fire also looks great through the big front window. I think this is a better built and beefier stove than the Mark II I had that my brother now burns. Only drawback is there is no blower.

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