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Post by ColdHouse » Fri. Feb. 10, 2023 8:05 am

Today is going to be over 50*
What will I do different on my Hitzer 503 E-Z?

1. Shut off blower.
2. Fully open secondary air vent.
3. Adjust Ash Pan vents to barely open.
4. Cover Barometric Damper.

Is there any flaw in this strategy? Do you have anything else to add?
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Post by freetown fred » Fri. Feb. 10, 2023 8:49 am

Each stove is different--trial & error are the best teachers.

 
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Post by Hoytman » Fri. Feb. 10, 2023 8:58 am

So you decided to start running the blowers? When did you decide that? Just wondering.

 
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Post by tsb » Fri. Feb. 10, 2023 9:03 am

Open a few widows.

 
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Post by ColdHouse » Fri. Feb. 10, 2023 9:17 am

Hoytman wrote:
Fri. Feb. 10, 2023 8:58 am
So you decided to start running the blowers? When did you decide that? Just wondering.
Long time ago. I ran the blower on the main level all last winter. After a discussion this winter when I wasn't running the main level blower, I took the advice from this forum and turned it on. I noted that less heat was going up the chimney. The basement stove had a bad wire so they were inoperable. I fixed that over a month ago.
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Post by Sunny Boy » Fri. Feb. 10, 2023 9:28 am

Some guys have success putting a layer of fines over most of the firebed.

I throw some of the "coal cakes" I made out of fines on top of the firebed. They break down back to being fines as they heat up and add resistance to air/exhaust moving through the firebed and thus helping to slow the fire.

Then there's the use of the "window stats" as TSB mentioned.

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Post by Hoytman » Fri. Feb. 10, 2023 10:03 am

ColdHouse wrote:
Fri. Feb. 10, 2023 9:17 am
Long time ago. I ran the blower on the main level all last winter. After a discussion this winter when I wasn't running the main level blower, I took the advice from this forum and turned it on. I noted that less heat was going up the chimney. The basement stove had a bad wire so they were inoperable. I fixed that over a month ago.
Ok. I remembered you fixing the wire in the basement stove. Didn’t realize you had decided to run it or the upstairs blower.

I do recall saying I thought heat was being wasted up the chimney.


 
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Post by ColdHouse » Fri. Feb. 10, 2023 10:12 am

tsb wrote:
Fri. Feb. 10, 2023 9:03 am
Open a few widows.
Good idea!
I opened several windows on main level and second floor to get some cross ventilation and remove stale air.
That is not as easy in the basement though.

 
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Post by zachary193 » Fri. Feb. 10, 2023 6:36 pm

ColdHouse wrote:
Fri. Feb. 10, 2023 8:05 am
Today is going to be over 50*
What will I do different on my Hitzer 503 E-Z?

1. Shut off blower.
2. Fully open secondary air vent.
3. Adjust Ash Pan vents to barely open.
4. Cover Barometric Damper.

Is there any flaw in this strategy? Do you have anything else to add?


I understand you run 2 stoves . Do you run just 1 lower than the other one ? What kind of stove temperatures ? Curious how that would work . I have 1 large stove in 2300 sq feet and I have to go to about 200 and below to maintain 72-74. MPD open , baro set .04 and half air wash pushing .

 
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Post by ColdHouse » Fri. Feb. 10, 2023 7:11 pm

zachary193 wrote:
Fri. Feb. 10, 2023 6:36 pm
I understand you run 2 stoves . Do you run just 1 lower than the other one ? What kind of stove temperatures ? Curious how that would work . I have 1 large stove in 2300 sq feet and I have to go to about 200 and below to maintain 72-74. MPD open , baro set .04 and half air wash pushing .
Main floor stove has no barometric damper and vents out fireplace chimney. It shows 200*
Basement stove has barometric damper closed off and shows 450*
Neither stove has blowers running. The reason I shut off the blowers is so the stove is hotter and still pulls good draft even though ash pan door vents nearly closed. Room temperatures not hot not cold. 72 in basement. 71 main level hallway. No way to measure draft. I closed off baro because I want stove gasses going up chimney without fail. Reason I shut off blowers is so stove is hotter. I am certain if I turned on blowers the stoves would be very cool.

 
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Post by davidmcbeth3 » Fri. Feb. 10, 2023 11:52 pm

That's what (((they))) expect you to do...

 
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Post by ColdHouse » Sat. Feb. 11, 2023 8:17 am

Barometric damper massively reduces fuel consumption. I had it closed for last 24 hours and had stove ash pan vents very closed. I used more fuel than with ash pan vents more open and baro working as it was. Yesterday was 60* high in afternoon. It took probably 10 more pounds to fill the stove than usual.

 
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Post by ShawnLiNy » Sat. Feb. 11, 2023 8:36 am

ColdHouse wrote:
Sat. Feb. 11, 2023 8:17 am
Barometric damper massively reduces fuel consumption. I had it closed for last 24 hours and had stove ash pan vents very closed. I used more fuel than with ash pan vents more open and baro working as it was. Yesterday was 60* high in afternoon. It took probably 10 more pounds to fill the stove than usual.
that is my experience also 25% more coal without any wind ,

 
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Post by ColdHouse » Sat. Feb. 11, 2023 8:38 am

ShawnLiNy wrote:
Sat. Feb. 11, 2023 8:36 am
that is my experience also 25% more coal without any wind ,
Since indoor temperature was not hot that means to me that all that fuel went up the chimney.

 
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Post by ColdHouse » Sat. Feb. 11, 2023 8:42 am

ColdHouse wrote:
Sat. Feb. 11, 2023 8:38 am
Since indoor temperature was not hot that means to me that all that fuel went up the chimney.
Upon another moment of thought it is not fair to say it is the barometric damper. The baro is not the only factor that I changed. I also turned off the blowers. A hotter stove probably causes more draft. Maybe if i had blowers on and baro closed fuel consumption would not have been affected.


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