Ds stoves energy max 160 hot water coil

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Post by zachary193 » Mon. Aug. 15, 2022 1:21 am

Anyone out here have any pictures on how they have did domestic hot water? Is it even worth the extra work ? Other than for when the *censored* hits the fan I would see the benefit . Although my hot water tank is about 16 feet away from my stove . I would probably loose a good bit of heat .

 
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Post by Lightning » Mon. Aug. 15, 2022 9:55 am

It's definitely worth it if it's done right. I used a DHW coil in a hand fed stove for 8 years until I upgraded to a boiler. It saved $50-75 a month on electric for at least 6 months of the year.

 
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Post by Lightning » Mon. Aug. 15, 2022 10:01 am

Have a look here

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Post by Retro_Origin » Mon. Aug. 15, 2022 8:21 pm

Lightning wrote:
Mon. Aug. 15, 2022 10:01 am
Have a look here

Hot Water Coil Project
Lee, I find this curious, did you just run a single pipe with a single loop and consider that enough distance to transfer heat? Is that because it's not an 'on demand' system like a standard domestic coil? I mean, my coil is a copper line a mile long all snarled up into a ball with a bajillion little discs every quarter inch for max heat transfer. I find it hard to understand how a stainless tube would work? What am I missing?

 
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Post by zachary193 » Tue. Aug. 16, 2022 12:47 am

Lightning wrote:
Mon. Aug. 15, 2022 10:01 am
Have a look here

Hot Water Coil Project
You seem to have it set up well , do you know off hand what your cost of install was ? Our electric out here in the country on the co op isn’t that expensive per kilowatt. I’m kid of curious as far as set ups . This is my first year even running the stove it’s not even installed yet ! But it’s capable of way more than the house I have . May have to lean towards using the hot water option to take some of the heat out of the house. But also to the price of copper and metals right now are outa this world ! But what isn’t outrageous anymore !

 
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Post by waytomany?s » Tue. Aug. 16, 2022 7:08 am

Retro_Origin wrote:
Mon. Aug. 15, 2022 8:21 pm
Lee, I find this curious, did you just run a single pipe with a single loop and consider that enough distance to transfer heat? Is that because it's not an 'on demand' system like a standard domestic coil? I mean, my coil is a copper line a mile long all snarled up into a ball with a bajillion little discs every quarter inch for max heat transfer. I find it hard to understand how a stainless tube would work? What am I missing?
The part where he said recovery was slow, hence the need for a buffer tank.


 
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Post by Lightning » Tue. Aug. 16, 2022 8:46 am

Retro_Origin wrote:
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Is that because it's not an 'on demand' system like a standard domestic coil?
That's correct, it was not an "on demand" type DHW heating system. I used two tanks. One tank heated the water via natural convection, the other tank was for storage. Check the diagram towards the last page of the thread I posted.

 
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Post by Lightning » Tue. Aug. 16, 2022 8:55 am

zachary193 wrote:
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You seem to have it set up well , do you know off hand what your cost of install was ?
Thank you 🙂 I was really pleased with it's performance. There were even times while I was running the stove hot that it worked too good lol.

Expense wise, there was the cost of the coil $120, plumbing and supplies $200 roughly, I had the extra tank so no cost for that.. things are more expensive now of course. It was a fast return on investment for me, also a very fun project. I enjoy doing stuff like that.

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