Heating Old Farm House Wth Stone Wall Basement

 
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Post by Huf » Thu. Jan. 06, 2022 1:03 am

Hi,
I just received a used Hitzer 50/93 that I setup this week. I noticed the first few days the house was warm but still cool in some places when temp in the 20's. I was running it about 500 (measured top right front of stove) with blower on and stack was 350.

Now tonight temp is again in 20's and house seems really warm and I am only running it at 375 with blower off and stack at around 250.

I am thinking it took a few days to heat up the large stones in the basement that the house was built from. And now these very LARGE stones are keeping the heat and radiating up the house walls.

It is late 1800s farm house around 2k sq feet. Not insulated very well either. I was going to put in some cold air return registers in but now I think I am satisfied and will not even do that. I just have 1 12x12 register coming up from the basement and even that is in the hallway away from the other rooms. The floors are all very warm.

I was wondering if anyone else have similar experienced with old Stone basements where it takes a few days to get things warm with the stove in the basement?


 
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Post by freetown fred » Thu. Jan. 06, 2022 6:45 am

Yep, those stone foundations WILL take a while to warm up, but like ya said--once they do you're set for the winter. I'm thinkin you're gonna be real pleased with the 50-93!! :) My place is circa 1857 around 2000 sq. ft. & your standard broke up old farm house.

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Post by Rob R. » Thu. Jan. 06, 2022 6:56 am

Yes, it takes quite a bit to get that mass heated up. It also takes a fair amount of heat to keep the foundation warm, but there isn’t much you can do about that short of insulating the walls.

 
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Post by Holdencoal » Thu. Jan. 06, 2022 9:53 am

freetown fred wrote:
Thu. Jan. 06, 2022 6:45 am
Yep, those stone foundations WILL take a while to warm up, but like ya said--once they do you're set for the winter. I'm thinkin you're gonna be real pleased with the 50-93!! :) My place is circa 1857 around 2000 sq. ft. & your standard broke up old farm house.
Fred, will you please come make my yard lush and green as yours. Between two dogs, kids and the neighborhood kids my yard is dirt and mud.

 
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Post by 2001Sierra » Thu. Jan. 06, 2022 12:00 pm

Most definitely the basement will absorb much of the heat on a stove startup. My ranch is 60 years old and the basement family room is insulated, but early on it was not just paneled. It would take a couple of days before it truly felt warm with the hopper fed Buderus I started out with. Now I have a Keystoker90 and the room is insulated but the otherside of the basement is not, it does warm up quicker but the lag is much shorter, a day at most.

 
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Post by Lightning » Thu. Jan. 06, 2022 12:44 pm

Bounce some of that infrared radiation upwards so that the rocks aren't soaking it all up..

 
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Post by Huf » Thu. Jan. 06, 2022 12:44 pm

Well that is good to know. I think it hit the teens this morning and there was not a room under 70. She is still steady at around 400 degrees this morning. The old chimney looks good to - no liner but I do not think I need one anyways. Here is how I inspected the chimney I tuck pointed some near the topt since then


 
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Post by waytomany?s » Thu. Jan. 06, 2022 12:49 pm

Huf wrote:
Thu. Jan. 06, 2022 1:03 am
Hi,
I just received a used Hitzer 50/93 that I setup this week. I noticed the first few days the house was warm but still cool in some places when temp in the 20's. I was running it about 500 (measured top right front of stove) with blower on and stack was 350.

Now tonight temp is again in 20's and house seems really warm and I am only running it at 375 with blower off and stack at around 250.

I am thinking it took a few days to heat up the large stones in the basement that the house was built from. And now these very LARGE stones are keeping the heat and radiating up the house walls.

It is late 1800s farm house around 2k sq feet. Not insulated very well either. I was going to put in some cold air return registers in but now I think I am satisfied and will not even do that. I just have 1 12x12 register coming up from the basement and even that is in the hallway away from the other rooms. The floors are all very warm.

I was wondering if anyone else have similar experienced with old Stone basements where it takes a few days to get things warm with the stove in the basement?
Where are you measuring stack temp? Do you have a baro? What kind of draft do you have? How much coal are you using a day? The stack temps seem high.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Thu. Jan. 06, 2022 3:55 pm

BUT--H is real happy the way he's got it goin!! :) Good job my friend--ya don't need a bunch of gizmo's to tell if you're warm or not!!! LOL

 
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Post by freetown fred » Thu. Jan. 06, 2022 5:19 pm

H, sounds like ya got a couple crazy raccoons in that chimney video--double LOL Looks nice & usable to this old farmer!! Back when things were built to last. :)

 
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Post by Huf » Thu. Jan. 06, 2022 5:53 pm

Stack temp measured about 20 inches pipe from stove . Measured today again and stack is about 180-200 -- stove still 400. I have a manometer that came today . I am using about 1 bag 40 pound a day. In the back of the pict you can see the old oil tanks. I eventually
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thinking about cutting them open to store coal in them . I measure the temp with a laser gun..not the one on stove (It is not accurate).

I guess I spent all this time lining the old Hutch for nothing.




Although I will still fire it up for fun on some days.

I just ordered 3 tons of Nut Anthracite that I am just going to have them dump in drive and cover with a tarp until I figure out where to store it permanently.

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Post by warminmn » Thu. Jan. 06, 2022 6:01 pm

Storing coal in the oil tanks... I love that! :yes:

 
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Post by Holdencoal » Thu. Jan. 06, 2022 8:06 pm

If the tanks are really old, the bottoms thin out from moisture.

 
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Post by Huf » Thu. Jan. 06, 2022 10:22 pm

OK I will check the bottoms. If too thin I will just cut it all up with a plasma cutter and get it out of here to make a coal bin there.

 
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Post by waytomany?s » Fri. Jan. 07, 2022 1:14 pm

freetown fred wrote:
Thu. Jan. 06, 2022 3:55 pm
BUT--H is real happy the way he's got it goin!! :) Good job my friend--ya don't need a bunch of gizmo's to tell if you're warm or not!!! LOL
Hell Fred, he's only using a bag a day. I figured with that stack temp, he'd be using twice that. Heck with it, don't touch a thing. :yes:


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