Cold and the Hitzer 354

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Post by Hoytman » Sun. Feb. 07, 2021 9:38 am

Just to give some of you an idea of how this stove heats my house in the real cold weather. As long as the stove thermostat isn’t acting weird, it heats just fine.

OAT 8*F
IAT 70*F

315 ...IR gun measured above stove doors.
250ish on the sides of the stove.
220 back of stove just under thermostat.

135 stove pipe @ pipe damper 12” up.
98 stove pipe @ thimble.

These are the low side of numbers because thermostat just opened flap. When flap closes I’ll update the numbers for you.

EDIT: Flap closed. Temps holding steady. Which causes me to question even more why it acts the way it does sometimes. Oh well.
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Post by freetown fred » Sun. Feb. 07, 2021 9:46 am

Oh goody!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL Waitin for update. :)

 
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Post by Hoytman » Sun. Feb. 07, 2021 10:28 am

After considering KingCoal’s advice, employing the use of my pipe damper, my second damper in the system, and even though temps have dropped below 20F, my coal consumption seems to be staying constant at about 26-30lbs per day. We’ll see if that holds true through this weeks even lower temps. Looks like the 2nd damper is allowing that and holding plenty of extra heat in the stove while the draft has also increased with the cold, from -.01 and -.02 being normal to now running at -.03 in this cold with both dampers in use. Stove damper fully closed, pipe damper at about 45* or a tad more towards being closed.


 
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Post by Hoytman » Sat. Jan. 29, 2022 9:37 am

UPDATE:

January 29, 2022

House:
1958 Year built.
1350sq ft

OAT -2F @7am
IAT 74F

Dial setting (for my stove) 4.5
Draft -.035”WC


Stove Temperatures:

419F above the doors (my hottest ever)
272F under Biden’s-metallic box
240F top of stove above doors (first step)
233F top of stove (very top of stove)

178F pipe at damper 18” up
112 pipe at thimble

Hod averages 27-29lbs level full.
Added about 24 lbs is all this morning. Wow!!!

 
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Post by warminmn » Sat. Jan. 29, 2022 9:52 am

Ive noticed you finally started keeping your house warm... 74 degrees instead of 70. Your learning! :yes:

 
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Post by Lightning » Sat. Jan. 29, 2022 9:53 am

So I guess you aren't too disappointed about having a slightly over sized stove?


 
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Post by Hoytman » Sat. Jan. 29, 2022 10:49 am

warminmn wrote:
Sat. Jan. 29, 2022 9:52 am
Ive noticed you finally started keeping your house warm... 74 degrees instead of 70. Your learning! :yes:
It’s sort of weird, really. Above about 23F
(+/-3) that same 74F IAT seems too hot for me. Now, the wife still likes it. Above 28F that same IAT is too hot for all of us.

It’s nice in here this morning even with the real low -2F OAT, but we both think +2F BP would be even more nice. However, we’re going to let it ride as the OAT is supposed to get to 22F today.

Keep in mind I’m running a blower stove as a radiant stove. Occasionally, but rarely, when the flap is open I’ll turn the blower on low for just a few minutes...which helps keep the flap open longer and brings us back to a cruising room temp. The not on rare occasions do I even mess with doing that though.

This one such occasion that I might do that since we’ve been goin in and out to check cistern water levels and to feed and water chickens. Sometimes that’ll cause the house temp to drop 2/4 degrees and a short blower run helps stabilize house temps. Can’t recall the last time I did that though.

 
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Post by Hoytman » Sat. Jan. 29, 2022 10:53 am

Lightning wrote:
Sat. Jan. 29, 2022 9:53 am
So I guess you aren't too disappointed about having a slightly over sized stove?
At least not in OAT’s like those. Five (5) years ago when we moved in we had -27F real temperatures. I had the wood stove going then at around 550 and it was 90F in the house. You could feel the radiant heat coming through the walls into our bedroom. Much too hot inside then, but beat the alternative.

I do have to wonder how a the smaller 254 would be running for me right now. Likely around 475-500 maybe. Only person I know who could come close to giving me an example would be Oliver Power.

 
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Post by waytomany?s » Sat. Jan. 29, 2022 4:06 pm

Hoytman wrote:
Sat. Jan. 29, 2022 9:37 am
UPDATE:

January 29, 2022

House:
1958 Year built.
1350sq ft

OAT -2F @7am
IAT 74F

Dial setting (for my stove) 4.5
Draft -.035”WC


Stove Temperatures:

419F above the doors (my hottest ever)
272F under Biden’s-metallic box
240F top of stove above doors (first step)
233F top of stove (very top of stove)

178F pipe at damper 18” up
112 pipe at thimble

Hod averages 27-29lbs level full.
Added about 24 lbs is all this morning. Wow!!!
Cause that's where the real president is hiding. :clap:

 
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Post by Hoytman » Sat. Jan. 29, 2022 5:48 pm

I swear to you that was an autocorrect mistake...and a dang good one at that. No idea how it got switched to that. :lol: :lol:

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