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Post by fpappal » Sat. Nov. 21, 2020 8:03 pm

I am looking for advice on the installation of my Hitzer 30-95. I have a new home and stove is going in the basement, masonry chimney. New York code made me insulate entire basement with R15. So I have a block wall basement with 6 inches on insulation attached. I then have 2x4 wood framing and 1/2 inch sheetrock. My plan is to then put cement board on top of the sheetrock. Do you think that will create a safe wall for behind my stove? Any suggestions? I am trying to attach a picture but I cannot figure out how to do that.

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Post by freetown fred » Sat. Nov. 21, 2020 8:26 pm

Lookin fwd. to pix. Hit full editor & go from there.

 
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Post by Rob R. » Sat. Nov. 21, 2020 8:30 pm

How far from the wall do you want to set the stove?

 
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Post by Spacecadet » Sat. Nov. 21, 2020 8:50 pm

Hitzer put the clearance specs on the back of the stove. They should be perfect for any application. I had put the rock board your talking about behind a wood stove I had. It gets warm. It gets hot. It had a funny smell when it got hot. I didn’t like it. I went to Lowe’s and bought the asbestos fire board. And put that against the wall. I shimmed it about an inch from the wall with sheet rock blocks and 2” off the floor so the air could circulate around it. Honestly it didn’t need the clearance behind it. The front steel face could be hot and the back was cold. If anything I would suggest buying the asbestos fire board.

 
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Post by waytomany?s » Sat. Nov. 21, 2020 9:19 pm

fpappal wrote:
Sat. Nov. 21, 2020 8:03 pm
I am looking for advice on the installation of my Hitzer 30-95. I have a new home and stove is going in the basement, masonry chimney. New York code made me insulate entire basement with R15. So I have a block wall basement with 6 inches on insulation attached. I then have 2x4 wood framing and 1/2 inch sheetrock. My plan is to then put cement board on top of the sheetrock. Do you think that will create a safe wall for behind my stove? Any suggestions? I am trying to attach a picture but I cannot figure out how to do that.

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I thought you were not supposed to insulate basement walls because the frost will push them in?

 
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Post by fpappal » Sat. Nov. 21, 2020 9:45 pm

Here in central NY it is required. Can't get certificate of occupancy without it. Cheapest way to insulate still cost me $3000.

 
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Post by oliver power » Sat. Nov. 21, 2020 11:00 pm

waytomany?s wrote:
Sat. Nov. 21, 2020 9:19 pm
I thought you were not supposed to insulate basement walls because the frost will push them in?
If poor drainage around the exterior, you are correct. Frost will easily push a block wall in.


 
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Post by waytomany?s » Sun. Nov. 22, 2020 11:36 am

fpappal wrote:
Sat. Nov. 21, 2020 9:45 pm
Here in central NY it is required. Can't get certificate of occupancy without it. Cheapest way to insulate still cost me $3000.
I'm almost dead center of state, never heard of such a thing. Unless living space in basement? Is that the case? Or maybe new construction code. Not arguing, just curious. :annoyed:

 
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Post by freetown fred » Sun. Nov. 22, 2020 12:26 pm

Me neither & I'm in Cortland County--Freetown & am on the Variance Board. You must have a DICK for code enforcement that just makes up *censored* as he goes along--If anything, 2X6's are required for framing on any NEW structure. (at least in Freetown) You used 2X4's???????????????????

 
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Post by fpappal » Sun. Nov. 22, 2020 4:16 pm

I am in Oswego county. Yes it is the code up here, nothing I could do about it. The 2x4 framing is just in the basement to hold the sheetrock. The house itself is 2x6 construction. I had to have stamped architect plans because house is 2000 sq ft ranch. The current codes are ridiculous for sure. To make matters worse when the inspector came for my occupancy he never even went in the basement!!!!

 
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Post by waytomany?s » Fri. Nov. 27, 2020 1:28 pm

I guess what's done is done, however I still think someone is giving their interpretation of code. My opinion aside, any progress with your situation?

 
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Post by waytomany?s » Fri. Nov. 27, 2020 1:33 pm

Rob R. wrote:
Sat. Nov. 21, 2020 8:30 pm
How far from the wall do you want to set the stove?
Smartest guy here. Always has the question that gets you the answer you need. :yes: My tangent doesn't help answer your question. Sorry. Back to topic. Are you thinking you need wall protection because of location?

 
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Post by rstrawsburg » Wed. Dec. 02, 2020 9:52 pm

I just followed the clearance specifications from Hitzler and haven't had any problems. I periodically use an IR thermometer and check the wall temperature. The hottest the wall has ever been is about 135F when I had the stove really humming. I moved it out a bit more from the wall after that and all is well. My floor is concrete with ceramic tile and the wall is drywall.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Thu. Dec. 03, 2020 12:20 am

Sounds good R. :)

 
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Post by oliver power » Fri. Dec. 04, 2020 8:21 pm

I was just working on a new home in Geneseo, NY a few days ago. Yes, code is insulating block wall from top to bottom. last I knew it was 4 or 5 foot down from the sill plate. Now all the way to basement floor. Some of these codes are out of hand. They want these houses too tight. Then add an air exchanger.


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