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Post by Ranger83 » Thu. Sep. 10, 2020 8:30 pm

hello,

I just bought a house that has a Salvo Machinery coal/wood stove. I don't know much about coal stoves but I've done a bunch of searches in these forums and have learned a few things. My stove has some cracked/crumbling fire bricks so I decided to pry them out. I've ordered some new ones but have realized that the bricks closest to the doors appear to be some kind of special cut/shape. Has anyone ever owned and maintained this brand of stove? Is there a way I can make the bricks fit "good enough"? The company has gone out of business, so I'm stuck figuring this out myself. The stove also has an electric blower on the back, but the cord isn't long enough to reach any nearby outlet abd im not sure the previous owner used it. Is the blower an important part of the coal burning process? I know the stove was mainly used to burn coal. Thanks for your help.

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Post by Holdencoal » Thu. Sep. 10, 2020 9:13 pm

R,

It looks like you have a big project on your hands, between the hearth and stove work.
I would also inspect the chimney.

Add a location in your profile it really helps.

Check out this post.
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Post by Ranger83 » Thu. Sep. 10, 2020 9:27 pm

Ok, thank you. The bricks on the hearth are just the broken firebricks I pulled out of the stove. The firebricks are the only thing that appears needing replacing. The stove connects to my furnace chimey on the other side of the wall, which is my garage. I live in Massachusetts.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Fri. Sep. 11, 2020 6:20 am

Welcome Ranger.

You can buy firebrick and cut it to size/shape with a masonry disc in a saw, or right-angle grinder. Or make a simple mold and cast them using Rutland castable refractory cement that you can order online right from Rutland's website. https://www.rutland.com/product/castable-refracto ... aec8db952d

Easy to use, mixes with and cleans up with water. It's what many of us use to cast new bricks and liners for our antique stoves.

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Post by Ranger83 » Fri. Sep. 11, 2020 1:54 pm

Thanks for the info, Paul!

 
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Post by Ranger83 » Sat. Sep. 12, 2020 9:19 am

So, I attempted to remove the plate the holds the glass in and only one came out (my knee broke one of the glass in the doors while I was trying to move it.) The other three ended up snapping off flush with the door. I tried drilling them out without much success. My question is, can I hire a welder to weld a cast iron cover over the place where the window was? Will it affect the heat output? I just ordered glass, so I'm not having a great time.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Sat. Sep. 12, 2020 11:01 am

If ya ordered glass--why weld the plate?????????/ I'm sure ya used plenty of PB Blaster when trying to remove glass holden thinggys????
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Post by warminmn » Sat. Sep. 12, 2020 11:42 am

Sounds too late for saving the screws. Some have used a sheet of steel in place of the window. I do not know what gauge but if you could get it half arsed mounted you should be able to seal any gaps. Welding on cast iron may not work out well. Steel may warp if welded. You likely could cut a hole in the steel for a small mica glass window and mount one with a gasket if you wanted too. (Use plain steel, not galvanized).

efficiency loss? I have no idea but it sounds like your likely at this point anyway. A couple percent loss you wont notice much anyway. Good luck

 
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Post by Holdencoal » Sat. Sep. 12, 2020 1:12 pm

Soak the screws in anything that will get down into threads. You will need a strong drill bit to start a small hole and then use an extractor

 
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Post by Hoytman » Sat. Sep. 12, 2020 2:28 pm

Find some Kroil!!! If that stuff won’t creep down in them then nothing will. Little heat from a small torch might help too, after they soak.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Sat. Sep. 12, 2020 2:49 pm

Good idea but to late!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

 
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Post by franco b » Sat. Sep. 12, 2020 3:50 pm

For small screws that are broken, try to file a flat and then center punch. Use a small drill, followed by the right size tap drill, and follow with a tap for the new screws..

 
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Post by Holdencoal » Sat. Sep. 12, 2020 5:47 pm

I agree with the small torch heat and then spray some way on the screw hopefully breaking the rust

 
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Post by Ranger83 » Sat. Sep. 12, 2020 6:08 pm

Hey guys, I found a different type of drill bit that allowed me to drill the screws out slowly. So, I'm going to tap the holes and hopefully everything will be fine, I'll just need new screws. Basically what Franco B suggested. I'm actually glad I took the plates off to get to the glass because the gaskets were crumbling to the touch. The same for the doors. By the time I'm done with this, I'll have all new glass, screws, gaskets and bricks. Thanks for all the advice.

 
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Post by Hoytman » Sat. Sep. 12, 2020 8:08 pm

I made window gasket cover from plate steel to cover my window gaskets one the old wood stove. Works like a charm and keeps them from direct heat. Took a little effort on my part but I matched existing screw holes in a piece of 1/4” plate steel and cut it out so you can still see through the glass. If it’s a curved door you could do the same, but you’ll have to match the curve of the door. These were 8”x8” plates with center cut out of them so the steel covered the baskets by 1” all the way around. The cut out window portion will be used for another project.


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